Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to theReceptor for Mobius

[Doug Cox <dougcox@pdq.net>]

Jeff,

Mobius kicks ass.  Period, end of story.

I'd like to hear the stances of anyone who is "irritated" by Mobius?  
Maybe I'll have to go back and read Kim's 3 page diatribe (do I *have* 
to?) to see what you're referring to, but outside of Kim, who the hell 
thinks Mobius is a bad idea?!?!

Keep looping, bro. 

Doug

Jeff Larson wrote:

>
> Yes, yes, the "non real-time" aspect of PCs has been beaten to death
> here.  Sure it is a concern, but frankly it is overblown.  Time will
> tell.  I do however completely agree that purpose built hardware will
> be better than a general purpose computer attempting to do the same
> thing.  No question.  Unfortunately, no one makes hardware that
> does what I want so I'm forced to use a computer.  It is a sad, sad
> existence.  Pity me.  Luckily I'm not "pro" :-)
>
> >> It would cost what, 12 or 13 thousand to duplicate what mobius will do
> >> with edp units! and that doesn't even consider the nightmare of trying
> >> to wire up and control 16 edp's
> >
> > Well, you also have to consider the whole ethical dilemma there, and
> > what your conscience allows.
>
> Ok I'll bite.  Ethical dilemma?  Oh I get it, did I "steal" your ideas?
> Well, they weren't hard to steal, they were all published quite nicely.
> Everyone on this list whines about how manufacturers aren't listening
> to the looping community by failing to incorporate some popular feature
> into their product.  If they did would that be stealing?  Do you
> own the concept of "multiply"?
>
> Some people believe I somehow copied the actual assembly code off the
> EDP ROMs and built an emulator to run that in Windows.  This is untrue
> and I would in fact consider that unethical.  Mobius was a *lot* of
> work.  I have invested well over a thousand hours in it.  Had I chosen
> to make my usual consulting rate during those hours I could have made
> a lot of money.  Now I give it away for free for the benefit of
> those that can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on hardware.
> I'm sorry if you consider that unethical, I don't.
>
> And as I've said before, I really don't think Mobius is affecting the
> sales of EDPs at all.  Based on some of the feedback I get I've
> probably even sold a few EDPs for you.  There are plenty of people out
> there that are curious about the EDP but they're not going to spend
> a thousand dollars to find out.  Now they can get a pretty good idea,
> but for all the reasons you so eloquently point out they don't
> want to deal with a laptop on stage.  So they decide to buy an EDP.
> You're welcome.
>
> I have an enormous amount of admiration for the EDP designers.  This
> device quite literally changed my life.  It saddens me that Mobius
> irritates some of you, but I honestly cannot understand how it
> adversely affects you in any way.  No one else was going to do this,
> it is incredibly difficult and you can't make money selling it.
> This is my hobby, I build the things I want and if there are other
> tone deaf rhythmically challenged amateurs that like it too, well
> fine I get some karma points.
>
> Warmly,
> Jeff
>
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