Support
Looper's Delight
|
Support |
|
|
I have to admit that, as a person who's never used an EDP much less seen one in person, I find it quite difficult to use Mobius, but understand if it's made for folks familiar with the EDP, that's pretty much a "by design" issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Cox" <dougcox@pdq.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2005 21:52 PM Subject: Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to the Receptor for Mobius > Jeff, > > Mobius kicks ass. Period, end of story. > > I'd like to hear the stances of anyone who is "irritated" by Mobius? > Maybe I'll have to go back and read Kim's 3 page diatribe (do I *have* > to?) to see what you're referring to, but outside of Kim, who the hell > thinks Mobius is a bad idea?!?! > > Keep looping, bro. > Doug > > Jeff Larson wrote: > >> >> Yes, yes, the "non real-time" aspect of PCs has been beaten to death >> here. Sure it is a concern, but frankly it is overblown. Time will >> tell. I do however completely agree that purpose built hardware will >> be better than a general purpose computer attempting to do the same >> thing. No question. Unfortunately, no one makes hardware that >> does what I want so I'm forced to use a computer. It is a sad, sad >> existence. Pity me. Luckily I'm not "pro" :-) >> >> >> It would cost what, 12 or 13 thousand to duplicate what mobius will >do >> >> with edp units! and that doesn't even consider the nightmare of >trying >> >> to wire up and control 16 edp's >> > >> > Well, you also have to consider the whole ethical dilemma there, and >> > what your conscience allows. >> >> Ok I'll bite. Ethical dilemma? Oh I get it, did I "steal" your ideas? >> Well, they weren't hard to steal, they were all published quite nicely. >> Everyone on this list whines about how manufacturers aren't listening >> to the looping community by failing to incorporate some popular feature >> into their product. If they did would that be stealing? Do you >> own the concept of "multiply"? >> >> Some people believe I somehow copied the actual assembly code off the >> EDP ROMs and built an emulator to run that in Windows. This is untrue >> and I would in fact consider that unethical. Mobius was a *lot* of >> work. I have invested well over a thousand hours in it. Had I chosen >> to make my usual consulting rate during those hours I could have made >> a lot of money. Now I give it away for free for the benefit of >> those that can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on hardware. >> I'm sorry if you consider that unethical, I don't. >> >> And as I've said before, I really don't think Mobius is affecting the >> sales of EDPs at all. Based on some of the feedback I get I've >> probably even sold a few EDPs for you. There are plenty of people out >> there that are curious about the EDP but they're not going to spend >> a thousand dollars to find out. Now they can get a pretty good idea, >> but for all the reasons you so eloquently point out they don't >> want to deal with a laptop on stage. So they decide to buy an EDP. >> You're welcome. >> >> I have an enormous amount of admiration for the EDP designers. This >> device quite literally changed my life. It saddens me that Mobius >> irritates some of you, but I honestly cannot understand how it >> adversely affects you in any way. No one else was going to do this, >> it is incredibly difficult and you can't make money selling it. >> This is my hobby, I build the things I want and if there are other >> tone deaf rhythmically challenged amateurs that like it too, well >> fine I get some karma points. >> >> Warmly, >> Jeff >> >> > > > > >