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Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to the Receptor for Mobius



That's basically it, Stephen. It has taken me long enough just to figure 
out
how to use my EDPs at a basic level. Having a piece of software that
operates on similar usability principles is a wonderful thing when your 
hair
is getting greyer by the day and it is more difficult to remember things.
:)  Sometimes I wish the EDP manual were in HTML format though, so that I
could jump from one topic to another instantly, cross-reference via links
throughout the text, etc....and I don't mean PDF, unless it were generated
properly with hyperlinks.

Kim, what is the source text format for the manual? Mabye we can find a
volunteer to do the conversion. Heck, maybe if I find myself with time on 
my
hands this winter, I'll do it....afterall, I was a technical writer for HP
several years ago.

Kris


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net>


> I have to admit that, as a person who's never used an EDP much less seen
one
> in person, I find it quite difficult to use Mobius, but understand if 
>it's
> made for folks familiar with the EDP, that's pretty much a "by design"
> issue.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Cox" <dougcox@pdq.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2005 21:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to
the
> Receptor for Mobius
>
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Mobius kicks ass.  Period, end of story.
> >
> > I'd like to hear the stances of anyone who is "irritated" by Mobius?
> > Maybe I'll have to go back and read Kim's 3 page diatribe (do I *have*
> > to?) to see what you're referring to, but outside of Kim, who the hell
> > thinks Mobius is a bad idea?!?!
> >
> > Keep looping, bro.
> > Doug
> >
> > Jeff Larson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Yes, yes, the "non real-time" aspect of PCs has been beaten to death
> >> here.  Sure it is a concern, but frankly it is overblown.  Time will
> >> tell.  I do however completely agree that purpose built hardware will
> >> be better than a general purpose computer attempting to do the same
> >> thing.  No question.  Unfortunately, no one makes hardware that
> >> does what I want so I'm forced to use a computer.  It is a sad, sad
> >> existence.  Pity me.  Luckily I'm not "pro" :-)
> >>
> >> >> It would cost what, 12 or 13 thousand to duplicate what mobius will
do
> >> >> with edp units! and that doesn't even consider the nightmare of
trying
> >> >> to wire up and control 16 edp's
> >> >
> >> > Well, you also have to consider the whole ethical dilemma there, and
> >> > what your conscience allows.
> >>
> >> Ok I'll bite.  Ethical dilemma?  Oh I get it, did I "steal" your 
>ideas?
> >> Well, they weren't hard to steal, they were all published quite 
>nicely.
> >> Everyone on this list whines about how manufacturers aren't listening
> >> to the looping community by failing to incorporate some popular 
>feature
> >> into their product.  If they did would that be stealing?  Do you
> >> own the concept of "multiply"?
> >>
> >> Some people believe I somehow copied the actual assembly code off the
> >> EDP ROMs and built an emulator to run that in Windows.  This is untrue
> >> and I would in fact consider that unethical.  Mobius was a *lot* of
> >> work.  I have invested well over a thousand hours in it.  Had I chosen
> >> to make my usual consulting rate during those hours I could have made
> >> a lot of money.  Now I give it away for free for the benefit of
> >> those that can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on hardware.
> >> I'm sorry if you consider that unethical, I don't.
> >>
> >> And as I've said before, I really don't think Mobius is affecting the
> >> sales of EDPs at all.  Based on some of the feedback I get I've
> >> probably even sold a few EDPs for you.  There are plenty of people out
> >> there that are curious about the EDP but they're not going to spend
> >> a thousand dollars to find out.  Now they can get a pretty good idea,
> >> but for all the reasons you so eloquently point out they don't
> >> want to deal with a laptop on stage.  So they decide to buy an EDP.
> >> You're welcome.
> >>
> >> I have an enormous amount of admiration for the EDP designers.  This
> >> device quite literally changed my life.  It saddens me that Mobius
> >> irritates some of you, but I honestly cannot understand how it
> >> adversely affects you in any way.  No one else was going to do this,
> >> it is incredibly difficult and you can't make money selling it.
> >> This is my hobby, I build the things I want and if there are other
> >> tone deaf rhythmically challenged amateurs that like it too, well
> >> fine I get some karma points.
> >>
> >> Warmly,
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>