Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to the Receptor for Mobius

["Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>]

That's basically it, Stephen. It has taken me long enough just to figure 
out
how to use my EDPs at a basic level. Having a piece of software that
operates on similar usability principles is a wonderful thing when your 
hair
is getting greyer by the day and it is more difficult to remember things.
:)  Sometimes I wish the EDP manual were in HTML format though, so that I
could jump from one topic to another instantly, cross-reference via links
throughout the text, etc....and I don't mean PDF, unless it were generated
properly with hyperlinks.

Kim, what is the source text format for the manual? Mabye we can find a
volunteer to do the conversion. Heck, maybe if I find myself with time on 
my
hands this winter, I'll do it....afterall, I was a technical writer for HP
several years ago.

Kris


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net>


> I have to admit that, as a person who's never used an EDP much less seen
one
> in person, I find it quite difficult to use Mobius, but understand if 
>it's
> made for folks familiar with the EDP, that's pretty much a "by design"
> issue.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Cox" <dougcox@pdq.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2005 21:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Building a rackmount looping computer as an alternative to
the
> Receptor for Mobius
>
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Mobius kicks ass.  Period, end of story.
> >
> > I'd like to hear the stances of anyone who is "irritated" by Mobius?
> > Maybe I'll have to go back and read Kim's 3 page diatribe (do I *have*
> > to?) to see what you're referring to, but outside of Kim, who the hell
> > thinks Mobius is a bad idea?!?!
> >
> > Keep looping, bro.
> > Doug
> >
> > Jeff Larson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Yes, yes, the "non real-time" aspect of PCs has been beaten to death
> >> here.  Sure it is a concern, but frankly it is overblown.  Time will
> >> tell.  I do however completely agree that purpose built hardware will
> >> be better than a general purpose computer attempting to do the same
> >> thing.  No question.  Unfortunately, no one makes hardware that
> >> does what I want so I'm forced to use a computer.  It is a sad, sad
> >> existence.  Pity me.  Luckily I'm not "pro" :-)
> >>
> >> >> It would cost what, 12 or 13 thousand to duplicate what mobius will
do
> >> >> with edp units! and that doesn't even consider the nightmare of
trying
> >> >> to wire up and control 16 edp's
> >> >
> >> > Well, you also have to consider the whole ethical dilemma there, and
> >> > what your conscience allows.
> >>
> >> Ok I'll bite.  Ethical dilemma?  Oh I get it, did I "steal" your 
>ideas?
> >> Well, they weren't hard to steal, they were all published quite 
>nicely.
> >> Everyone on this list whines about how manufacturers aren't listening
> >> to the looping community by failing to incorporate some popular 
>feature
> >> into their product.  If they did would that be stealing?  Do you
> >> own the concept of "multiply"?
> >>
> >> Some people believe I somehow copied the actual assembly code off the
> >> EDP ROMs and built an emulator to run that in Windows.  This is untrue
> >> and I would in fact consider that unethical.  Mobius was a *lot* of
> >> work.  I have invested well over a thousand hours in it.  Had I chosen
> >> to make my usual consulting rate during those hours I could have made
> >> a lot of money.  Now I give it away for free for the benefit of
> >> those that can't afford to spend thousands of dollars on hardware.
> >> I'm sorry if you consider that unethical, I don't.
> >>
> >> And as I've said before, I really don't think Mobius is affecting the
> >> sales of EDPs at all.  Based on some of the feedback I get I've
> >> probably even sold a few EDPs for you.  There are plenty of people out
> >> there that are curious about the EDP but they're not going to spend
> >> a thousand dollars to find out.  Now they can get a pretty good idea,
> >> but for all the reasons you so eloquently point out they don't
> >> want to deal with a laptop on stage.  So they decide to buy an EDP.
> >> You're welcome.
> >>
> >> I have an enormous amount of admiration for the EDP designers.  This
> >> device quite literally changed my life.  It saddens me that Mobius
> >> irritates some of you, but I honestly cannot understand how it
> >> adversely affects you in any way.  No one else was going to do this,
> >> it is incredibly difficult and you can't make money selling it.
> >> This is my hobby, I build the things I want and if there are other
> >> tone deaf rhythmically challenged amateurs that like it too, well
> >> fine I get some karma points.
> >>
> >> Warmly,
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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