Re: AW: Introducing...

[Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>]

If I'm reading this correctly, you'd have four individually mutable
channels, i.e. tracks.  Each track could have oodles of overdubs
and would be "looping".  The overall audio event of whatever those
four tracks contain (including silence for unused or muted tracks) is
what Electrix refers to as a "loop".  In their parlance, a loop is
comprised of up to four tracks, which are made up of any number of
overdubs.

The trick is keeping track of what's where in the heat of performance,
since you won't have any visual reference as to what's on each
channel/track.

TravisH

On 11/2/05, Diana Thompson <pushingair@hotmail.com> wrote:

The looping scheme you outline is *exactly* what I want to do but with more loops. Imagine your scheme except multiply each loop by three.

What I'm grasping from you is that you can only loop four phrases simulaneously on for each track. The spec at http://www.electrixpro.com/products/repeater.html says "Repeater can have up to 999 loops with 4 tracks per loop." Shouldn't I be able to overdub phrases on each track and remove each track, each group of loops, from the mix on the fly.

Am I cloudy-headed?

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From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >
Subject: AW: Introducing...
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:13:53 +0200

PA,

 

what do you mean by "removing selected loops after adding them"? Do you think about something like this:

 

Step 1: record loop1 - loop1 playing

Step 2: record loop2 - loop1+2 playing

Step 3: record loop 3 - loop1+2+3 playing

Step 4: remove loop 2 - loop1+3 playing

 

If that is what you want to do, the only hardware solution that comes to my mind would be a multi-track looper -> the Repeater. However, you'd be limited to four loops you could bring in and out at will.

 

Judging from the few song of you I listened to, the Repeater seems a very interesting choice for you, because it also offers independent pitch-shifting on all four tracks (and this in surprising quality).

 

On the downside, the Repeater is rather pricey, and we're still waiting for the Repeater V2. And from what I read about it, I wouldn't second the "the Repeater does everything you need" statement, as with the V2 you still seem to have the problem that you can't go into overdub right away.

 

(Meaning: starting a loop and recording, closing the loop and immediately start overdubbing from the beginning is not possible. Workaround: you have to either record an empty loop and then overdub into it. This is acceptable for some people (e.g. people who know in advance how long their loops is gonna be.)

 

Perhaps you should give the laptop idea a second thought...

 

            Rainer

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Von: Diana Thompson [mailto: pushingair@hotmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Oktober 2005 22:32
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: Introducing...

Thank y'all for your support.

I have a minimal setup: Boss Loopstation, Boss Digital Delay, and a Behringer mixer. I'm thinking about upgrading sometime soon. I really want to be able to remove select loops after adding them. The only way to do that with the Loopstation is to presave the loops I want to keep. I really want to keep my looping all live. I also want to run my set continuously from beginning to end. I don't want to put live loops down, stop and save them, and then go on with the set. But for now, my setup works well.

OK, while I'm on it. Any recommendations for that upgrade? Coming from the setup I've got, I'm not going to jump up to a laptop with Ableton. Considering what I want to do and want to do, what's my next step up?

Thanks'm,

PA

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From: daniel stevenson <stillllscary@yahoo.com >
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Introducing...
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:40:39 -0700 (PDT)

howdy diana.

cool jams ya got there.what kind of gear are you using?...these folks can answer anything  or point ya in the right direction thats 4sure,amazing technical resources abound,my field of knowlege is primarilly nonsensical whimsey...but,its what i do best.

welcome to the collective...ressistance is futile!!!

boat drinks...danny///scary visionary.

Diana Thompson <pushingair@hotmail.com> wrote:

Greetings,

I'm new this list and fairly new to looping. My music is based out of jazz, blues, and African traditions. I use only voice, a delay pedal, and a looping pedal. My favorite recent comment: "Reminds me a little of Meredith Monk, but with more substance."

I've uploaded files from some recent live shows. Please take a listen to some of my tracks when you get a chance and let me know your impressions.

www.pushingair.com/music

Thanks!

Pushing Air
Diana Thompson
Vocalist, Composer, Improvisor
www.pushingair.com

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