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David,
Check out the archives at the RepeaterUsers Yahoo group for all the
findings on CFC
compatibility.
Secondly, you do not have your email client configured properly to
send/recieve mail from
this list. I would suggest contacting your ISP. Better yet, just get a
Yahoo email account and
subscribe to this list through it.
Stephen
>
> Hi all. Been lurking around the site for years & finally joined up.
> Everything's going into my junkmail folder, and the only time I answered
>to
> a post, it went straight to the sender. I didn't see my own message till
> they responded. I guess I'll have to cut&paste from my junkmail to my
>inbox
> in order to participate. Bit of a pain, but no more difficult than
>making
> accurate loops with my old PDS8000.
>
> Anyway, I've never been able to find a CFC that worked w/my Repeater,
>other
> than the SimpleTech 32MB that it shipped with. I've tried the
>recommended
> brands w/no success, and they're not easy to return, considering that
> there's nothing really wrong w/them, other than their incompatability
>w/the
> Repeater. I understand that the 'Hitachi control chip set' is crucial,
>but
> am met w/blank stares at computer & camera stores. The cards never
>indicate
> that info either.
>
> Of all the vagaries & peculiarities of the Repeater, this one's the most
> vexing to me. Are cards w/this chip still being made? Where can I get
>one in
> Canada?
>
> Thanks,
> David Rolling
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:45:07 -0600
> From: Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
> On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part
> > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> >
> > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
>
> i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's
> guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does with
> the RC-20s.
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
> > Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:18:38 +0000
> From: a k butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
>
> Gary says
> >It sorta looks like FB is achievable with an expression pedal,
>
> how'd ya figure that?
> I read the info as saying "no feedback control, but can do a fade out
> on switch off of the loop"
>
> ...but I want you to be right :-)
>
> Kris says
> >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does this unit provide
> >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you record a loop, you
> >aren't limited to that length for additional loops? I wasn't sure if
> >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
>
> Current info seems to be that you have a choice of either unsynced,
> or exactly the same length.
>
> the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an unsynced loop to fit.
>
> andy butler
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:21:35 -0500
> From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>
> To: mungenast@earthlink.net
> CC: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: fretless fest
>
> Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing
>frets??
>
> On 11/7/05, Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Gang:
> > The 12/05 Guitar Player magazine has a sidebar on the NYC Fretless
>Guitar
> > Festival, which I'm sure some of you attended.
> > ( www.unfretted.com )
> >
> > Sonic Joy,
> > Tim Mungenast
> >
> >
> >
> > Timothy Mungenast
> > mungenast@earthlink.net
> > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> /t
>
> http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:07:52 -0500
> From: "Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: fretless fest
>
> Nice one, man! Thanks for the much-needed laugh!
> ~Tim
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>
> > To: <mungenast@earthlink.net>
> > Cc: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Date: 11/8/2005 4:21:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: fretless fest
> >
> > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing
> frets??
> >
> > On 11/7/05, Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Gang:
> > > The 12/05 Guitar Player magazine has a sidebar on the NYC Fretless
> Guitar
> > > Festival, which I'm sure some of you attended.
> > > ( www.unfretted.com )
> > >
> > > Sonic Joy,
> > > Tim Mungenast
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Timothy Mungenast
> > > mungenast@earthlink.net
> > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > /t
> >
> > http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:07:31 -0800
> From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: fretless fest
>
> I think they're still saving up for a tuner to share between them...
>
> On 11/8/05, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:
> > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing
>frets??
> >
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:33:00 -0700
> From: "Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
>
> > Kris says
> > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does this unit provide
> > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you record a loop, you
> > >aren't limited to that length for additional loops? I wasn't sure if
> > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> >
> > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of either unsynced,
> > or exactly the same length.
> >
> > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an unsynced loop to fit.
> >
> > andy butler
>
> That's interesting...time stretch without pitch transposition, I assume?
> Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like function in one of these
> units?
>
> Kris
> > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:35 +0100 (CET)
> From: Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
>
> Do we have any info about its price and availability ?
>
> --- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> a écrit :
>
> > > Kris says
> > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does
> > this unit provide
> > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you
> > record a loop, you
> > > >aren't limited to that length for additional
> > loops? I wasn't sure if
> > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> > >
> > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of
> > either unsynced,
> > > or exactly the same length.
> > >
> > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an
> > unsynced loop to fit.
> > >
> > > andy butler
> >
> > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch
> > transposition, I assume?
> > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like
> > function in one of these
> > units?
> >
> > Kris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:47:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
>
> I had my LMS guy call Roland Canada and the rep he spoke to said this
>was the first he had
> heard/seen of the unit.
>
> The rep said, though, that this isn't uncommon for Roland and that based
>on past experience,
> it'll probably be at the Winter NAMM show.
>
>
> ted.
>
> Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Do we have any info about its price and availability ?
>
> --- Kris Hartung a écrit :
>
> > > Kris says
> > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does
> > this unit provide
> > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you
> > record a loop, you
> > > >aren't limited to that length for additional
> > loops? I wasn't sure if
> > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> > >
> > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of
> > either unsynced,
> > > or exactly the same length.
> > >
> > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an
> > unsynced loop to fit.
> > >
> > > andy butler
> >
> > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch
> > transposition, I assume?
> > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like
> > function in one of these
> > units?
> >
> > Kris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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23:49:03 +0000
> From: "David Rolling" <david_rolling@sympatico.ca>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
>
> A poster from thegearpage e-mailed Roland who replied that it would be
> featured at winter NAMM and shipping sometime next year. No info on
>price.
>
> BTW- I'm new & trying to participate here, but when I send to the LD
>mailing
> list, the message come straight back to my inbox. The only way anything
>I
> write turns up is when I respond to a pre-existing post. What am I diong
> wrong?
>
> thanks,
> David Rolling
>
>
> >From: Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr>
> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:35 +0100 (CET)
> >
> >Do we have any info about its price and availability ?
> >
> >--- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> a écrit :
> >
> > > > Kris says
> > > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does
> > > this unit provide
> > > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you
> > > record a loop, you
> > > > >aren't limited to that length for additional
> > > loops? I wasn't sure if
> > > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> > > >
> > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of
> > > either unsynced,
> > > > or exactly the same length.
> > > >
> > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an
> > > unsynced loop to fit.
> > > >
> > > > andy butler
> > >
> > > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch
> > > transposition, I assume?
> > > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like
> > > function in one of these
> > > units?
> > >
> > > Kris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:46:33 -0600
> From: "Mark Smart" <mwsmart@insightbb.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part
> > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> > >
> > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> >
> > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's
> > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does with
> > the RC-20s.
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
>
> Hi.
> Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, and
>the
> Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty
>well if I
> do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one pedal at a
>time.
>
> I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts
>and
> ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the
>looping.
> And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately I have
>to wait
> 6-8 weeks for them to build it!
>
> If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s
>(old kind),
> a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon.
>
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:56:06 -0800
> From: David Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
> Ooo! PLEASE keep us updated on how this works out! VERY interesting...
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Mark Smart wrote:
>
> > I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go
> > nuts and
> > ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all
> > the looping.
> >
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 04:18:29 +0100
> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: AW: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
> Could you think about making your Reaktor looping ensembles available to
> the public domain? I have been thinking about doing something in reaktor
> for a long time, yet didn't invest the time to get familiar with this
> beast.
>
> Rainer
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Mark Smart [mailto:mwsmart@insightbb.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 01:47
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part
> > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> > >
> > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> >
> > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's
> > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does
> > with the RC-20s.
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
>
> Hi.
> Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, and
> the Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty
> well if I do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one
> pedal at a time.
>
> I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts
> and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the
> looping. And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately
> I have to wait 6-8 weeks for them to build it!
>
> If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s
> (old kind), a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon.
>
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:02:53 -0600
> From: "Mark Smart" <mwsmart@insightbb.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
> Sure, I'm not as posessive about that stuff as I am about the big band
>synth. I
> already started working it out on my PC using the Tapedeck modules in
>Reaktor.
> Basically there is a big sequencer that you set up for each song. For
>each step
> in the sequence you tell it what to do using a bunch of buttons. I also
>had it
> set up to control the switching of the bass and guitar sounds of the
>strings on
> the guitar (right now I'm using a switch on the guitar to do this).
>
> So I would set up the steps something like this:
>
> 1. Play the hi-hat drum loop and run all six strings through the octave
>divider
> for a bass sound.
>
> 2. Do the same as above, but recording the result into tapedeck 1.
>
> 3. Play a crash cymbal. Now switch to a drum loop at the same tempo but
>with a
> ride cymbal. Continue running all six strings through the octave
>divider. Record
> the result into Tapedaeck 2.
>
> 4. Play back Tapedeck 1. Run all six strings through the guitar amp
>simulator.
> (I would play the tune's head on this part).
>
> 5. Play a crash. Play back Tapedeck 2. Continue running all six strings
>through
> the guitar amp simulator (I would play a solo on this part).
>
> 6. Play a crash. Play back Tapedeck one. (I would play the head again on
>this
> part.
>
> 7. Silence (I would play a break on this part, like a Take the A Train
>ending or
> a BAsie ending.
>
> 8. Play a crash. Run the bottom two strings through the octave divider
>and the
> top four through the amp simulator. (I would play the last chord on this
>part).
>
> End of tune. I use a pedal to advance the sequencer to the next step at
>the
> right time.
>
> Pretty cool. Reaktor is the ultimate looping device if it's set up
>correctly.
>
> On the NeKo I will also be able to run the Native Instruments B4 program
>and
> feed it into Reaktor; that way I can lay down a jazz organ accompaniment
>and
> then play guitar over it.
>
> Eventually I will incorporate the big band synth into it:
>
>
>http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html
>
> I'm pretty excited about the possibilities!
>
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:18 PM
> Subject: AW: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
>
> Could you think about making your Reaktor looping ensembles available to
> the public domain? I have been thinking about doing something in reaktor
> for a long time, yet didn't invest the time to get familiar with this
> beast.
>
> Rainer
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Mark Smart [mailto:mwsmart@insightbb.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 01:47
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part
> > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> > >
> > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> >
> > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's
> > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does
> > with the RC-20s.
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
>
> Hi.
> Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, and
> the Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty
> well if I do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one
> pedal at a time.
>
> I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts
> and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the
> looping. And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately
> I have to wait 6-8 weeks for them to build it!
>
> If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s
> (old kind), a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon.
>
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:41:15 -0800
> From: Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: gig spam: cello loops in seattle, 11/11
>
> Hi Loopers,
>
> I'll be playing in a looped cello set in Seattle on Friday, Nov 11th
> as part of the Rockrgrl Conference. Please, if you live in the
> Seattle area, or happen to be there this weekend, come out and see me!!
>
> Here are the details:
> Friday, Nov 11th
> midnight
> $7
> Rendevous Grotto
> 2322 2nd Avenue
>
> venue website:http://www.jewelboxtheater.com/main/event.php?id=664
> my site: http:///www.zoekeating.com
>
> Thank you very, very much,
>
> Zoe
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:50:15 -0800
> From: "Gary Lehmann" <hqr@cox.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: RE: RC-50 FB?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:19 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
>
> Gary says
> >It sorta looks like FB is achievable with an expression pedal,
>
> how'd ya figure that?
> I read the info as saying "no feedback control, but can do a fade out
> on switch off of the loop"
>
> ...but I want you to be right :-)
>
> --->Translation says:
> As for the RC-50, while re-raising the phrase, tap * tempo and outside of
> the pedal with the expression * pedal which you connect, it is possible
>to
> change refresh rate into real time.
>
> But my head hurts when I try to follow the translation 8>)
> G
>
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