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Re:CFC's for Repeater




     David,

     Check out the archives at the RepeaterUsers Yahoo group for all the 
findings on CFC
compatibility.

     Secondly, you do not have your email client configured properly to 
send/recieve mail from
this list.  I would suggest contacting your ISP.  Better yet, just get a 
Yahoo email account and
subscribe to this list through it.

     Stephen






> 
> Hi all. Been lurking around the site for years & finally joined up. 
> Everything's going into my junkmail folder, and the only time I answered 
>to 
> a post, it went straight to the sender. I didn't see my own message till 
> they responded. I guess I'll have to cut&paste from my junkmail to my 
>inbox 
> in order to participate. Bit of a pain, but no more difficult than 
>making 
> accurate loops with my old PDS8000.
> 
> Anyway, I've never been able to find a CFC that worked w/my Repeater, 
>other 
> than the SimpleTech 32MB that it shipped with. I've tried the 
>recommended 
> brands w/no success, and they're not easy to return, considering that 
> there's nothing really wrong w/them, other than their incompatability 
>w/the 
> Repeater. I understand that the 'Hitachi control chip set' is crucial, 
>but 
> am met w/blank stares at computer & camera stores. The cards never 
>indicate 
> that info either.
> 
> Of all the vagaries & peculiarities of the Repeater, this one's the most 
> vexing to me. Are cards w/this chip still being made? Where can I get 
>one in 
> Canada?
> 
> Thanks,
> David Rolling
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:45:07 -0600
> From: Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: RC-50:  simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part 
> > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> >
> > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> 
> i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's 
> guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does with 
> the RC-20s.
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
> > Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:18:38 +0000
> From: a k butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> 
> Gary says
> >It sorta looks like FB is achievable with an expression pedal,
> 
> how'd ya figure that?
> I read the info as saying "no feedback control, but can do a fade out 
> on switch off of the loop"
> 
> ...but I want you to be right  :-)
> 
> Kris says
> >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does this unit provide 
> >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you record a loop, you 
> >aren't limited to that length for additional loops? I wasn't sure if 
> >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> 
> Current info seems to be that you have a choice of either unsynced,
> or exactly the same length.
> 
> the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an unsynced loop to fit.
> 
> andy butler
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:21:35 -0500
> From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>
> To: mungenast@earthlink.net
> CC: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: fretless fest
> 
> Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing 
>frets??
> 
> On 11/7/05, Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Gang:
> > The 12/05 Guitar Player magazine has a sidebar on the NYC Fretless 
>Guitar
> > Festival, which I'm sure some of you attended.
> > ( www.unfretted.com )
> >
> > Sonic Joy,
> > Tim Mungenast
> >
> >
> >
> > Timothy Mungenast
> > mungenast@earthlink.net
> > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
>      /t
> 
> http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:07:52 -0500
> From: "Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: fretless fest
> 
> Nice one, man! Thanks for the much-needed laugh!
> ~Tim
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com>
> > To: <mungenast@earthlink.net>
> > Cc: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Date: 11/8/2005 4:21:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: fretless fest
> >
> > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing
> frets??
> >
> > On 11/7/05, Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Gang:
> > > The 12/05 Guitar Player magazine has a sidebar on the NYC Fretless
> Guitar
> > > Festival, which I'm sure some of you attended.
> > > ( www.unfretted.com )
> > >
> > > Sonic Joy,
> > > Tim Mungenast
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Timothy Mungenast
> > > mungenast@earthlink.net
> > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >      /t
> >
> > http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:07:31 -0800
> From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: fretless fest
> 
> I think they're still saving up for a tuner to share between them...
> 
> On 11/8/05, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:
> > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing 
>frets??
> >
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:33:00 -0700
> From: "Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> 
> > Kris says
> > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does this unit provide
> > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you record a loop, you
> > >aren't limited to that length for additional loops? I wasn't sure if
> > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> >
> > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of either unsynced,
> > or exactly the same length.
> >
> > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an unsynced loop to fit.
> >
> > andy butler
> 
> That's interesting...time stretch without pitch transposition, I assume?
> Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like function in one of these
> units?
> 
> Kris
> > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:35 +0100 (CET)
> From: Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> 
> Do we have any info about its price and availability ?
> 
> --- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> a écrit :
> 
> > > Kris says
> > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does
> > this unit provide
> > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you
> > record a loop, you
> > > >aren't limited to that length for additional
> > loops? I wasn't sure if
> > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> > >
> > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of
> > either unsynced,
> > > or exactly the same length.
> > >
> > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an
> > unsynced loop to fit.
> > >
> > > andy butler
> > 
> > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch
> > transposition, I assume?
> > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like
> > function in one of these
> > units?
> > 
> > Kris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
>       
>               
> 
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> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:47:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> 
> I had my LMS guy call Roland Canada and the rep he spoke to said this 
>was the first he had
> heard/seen of the unit.
>  
> The rep said, though, that this isn't uncommon for Roland and that based 
>on past experience,
> it'll probably be at the Winter NAMM show.
>  
>  
> ted.
> 
> Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Do we have any info about its price and availability ?
> 
> --- Kris Hartung a écrit :
> 
> > > Kris says
> > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does
> > this unit provide
> > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you
> > record a loop, you
> > > >aren't limited to that length for additional
> > loops? I wasn't sure if
> > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> > >
> > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of
> > either unsynced,
> > > or exactly the same length.
> > >
> > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an
> > unsynced loop to fit.
> > >
> > > andy butler
> > 
> > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch
> > transposition, I assume?
> > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like
> > function in one of these
> > units?
> > 
> > Kris
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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23:49:03 +0000
> From: "David Rolling" <david_rolling@sympatico.ca>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> 
> A poster from thegearpage e-mailed Roland who replied that it would be 
> featured at winter NAMM and shipping sometime next year. No info on 
>price.
> 
> BTW- I'm new & trying to participate here, but when I send to the LD 
>mailing 
> list, the message come straight back to my inbox. The only way anything 
>I 
> write turns up is when I respond to a pre-existing post. What am I diong 
> wrong?
> 
> thanks,
> David Rolling
> 
> 
> >From: Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr>
> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:35 +0100 (CET)
> >
> >Do we have any info about its price and availability ?
> >
> >--- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> a écrit :
> >
> > > > Kris says
> > > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does
> > > this unit provide
> > > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you
> > > record a loop, you
> > > > >aren't limited to that length for additional
> > > loops? I wasn't sure if
> > > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature.
> > > >
> > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of
> > > either unsynced,
> > > > or exactly the same length.
> > > >
> > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an
> > > unsynced loop to fit.
> > > >
> > > > andy butler
> > >
> > > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch
> > > transposition, I assume?
> > > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like
> > > function in one of these
> > > units?
> > >
> > > Kris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:46:33 -0600
> From: "Mark Smart" <mwsmart@insightbb.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: RC-50:  simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> 
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part
> > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> > >
> > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> >
> > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's
> > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does with
> > the RC-20s.
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
> 
> Hi.
> Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, and 
>the
> Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty 
>well if I
> do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one pedal at a 
>time.
> 
> I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts 
>and
> ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the 
>looping.
> And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately I have 
>to wait
> 6-8 weeks for them to build it!
> 
> If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s 
>(old kind),
> a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon.
> 
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:56:06 -0800
> From: David Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: RC-50:  simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> Ooo! PLEASE keep us updated on how this works out! VERY interesting...
> 
> 
> On Nov 8, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Mark Smart wrote:
> 
> > I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go  
> > nuts and
> > ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all  
> > the looping.
> >
> 
> > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 04:18:29 +0100
> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: AW: RC-50:  simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> Could you think about making your Reaktor looping ensembles available to
> the public domain? I have been thinking about doing something in reaktor
> for a long time, yet didn't invest the time to get familiar with this
> beast.
> 
>       Rainer
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Mark Smart [mailto:mwsmart@insightbb.com] 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 01:47
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> 
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part 
> > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> > >
> > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> >
> > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's 
> > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does 
> > with the RC-20s.
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
> 
> Hi.
> Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, and
> the Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty
> well if I do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one
> pedal at a time.
> 
> I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts
> and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the
> looping. And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately
> I have to wait 6-8 weeks for them to build it!
> 
> If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s
> (old kind), a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon.
> 
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:02:53 -0600
> From: "Mark Smart" <mwsmart@insightbb.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: Re: RC-50:  simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> Sure, I'm not as posessive about that stuff as I am about the big band 
>synth. I
> already started working it out on my PC using the Tapedeck modules in 
>Reaktor.
> Basically there is a big sequencer that you set up for each song. For 
>each step
> in the sequence you tell it what to do using a bunch of buttons. I also 
>had it
> set up to control the switching of the bass and guitar sounds of the 
>strings on
> the guitar (right now I'm using a switch on the guitar to do this).
> 
> So I would set up the steps something like this:
> 
> 1. Play the hi-hat drum loop and run all six strings through the octave 
>divider
> for a bass sound.
> 
> 2. Do the same as above, but recording the result into tapedeck 1.
> 
> 3. Play a crash cymbal. Now switch to a drum loop at the same tempo but 
>with a
> ride cymbal. Continue running all six strings through the octave 
>divider. Record
> the result into Tapedaeck 2.
> 
> 4. Play back Tapedeck 1. Run all six strings through the guitar amp 
>simulator.
> (I would play the tune's head on this part).
> 
> 5. Play a crash. Play back Tapedeck 2. Continue running all six strings 
>through
> the guitar amp simulator (I would play a solo on this part).
> 
> 6. Play a crash. Play back Tapedeck one. (I would play the head again on 
>this
> part.
> 
> 7. Silence (I would play a break on this part, like a Take the A Train 
>ending or
> a BAsie ending.
> 
> 8. Play a crash. Run the bottom two strings through the octave divider 
>and the
> top four through the amp simulator. (I would play the last chord on this 
>part).
> 
> End of tune. I use a pedal to advance the sequencer to the next step at 
>the
> right time.
> 
> Pretty cool. Reaktor is the ultimate looping device if it's set up 
>correctly.
> 
> On the NeKo I will also be able to run the Native Instruments B4 program 
>and
> feed it into Reaktor; that way I can lay down a jazz organ accompaniment 
>and
> then play guitar over it.
> 
> Eventually I will incorporate the big band synth into it:
> 
> 
>http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html
> 
> I'm pretty excited about the possibilities!
> 
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:18 PM
> Subject: AW: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> 
> Could you think about making your Reaktor looping ensembles available to
> the public domain? I have been thinking about doing something in reaktor
> for a long time, yet didn't invest the time to get familiar with this
> beast.
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Mark Smart [mailto:mwsmart@insightbb.com]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 01:47
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths?
> 
> 
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
> > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part
> > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :)
> > >
> > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions!
> >
> > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's
> > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does
> > with the RC-20s.
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
> 
> Hi.
> Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, and
> the Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty
> well if I do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one
> pedal at a time.
> 
> I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts
> and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the
> looping. And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately
> I have to wait 6-8 weeks for them to build it!
> 
> If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s
> (old kind), a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon.
> 
> Mark Smart
> http://www.marksmart.net/
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:41:15 -0800
> From: Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: gig spam: cello loops in seattle, 11/11
> 
> Hi Loopers,
> 
> I'll be playing in a looped cello set in Seattle on Friday, Nov 11th  
> as part of the Rockrgrl Conference. Please, if you live in the  
> Seattle area, or happen to be there this weekend, come out and see me!!
> 
> Here are the details:
> Friday, Nov 11th
> midnight
> $7
> Rendevous Grotto
> 2322 2nd Avenue
> 
> venue website:http://www.jewelboxtheater.com/main/event.php?id=664
> my site: http:///www.zoekeating.com
> 
> Thank you very, very much,
> 
> Zoe
> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:50:15 -0800
> From: "Gary Lehmann" <hqr@cox.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Subject: RE: RC-50 FB?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:19 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions
> 
> Gary says
> >It sorta looks like FB is achievable with an expression pedal,
> 
> how'd ya figure that?
> I read the info as saying "no feedback control, but can do a fade out 
> on switch off of the loop"
> 
> ...but I want you to be right  :-)
> 
> --->Translation says:
> As for the RC-50, while re-raising the phrase, tap * tempo and outside of
> the pedal with the expression * pedal which you connect, it is possible 
>to
> change refresh rate into real time.
> 
> But my head hurts when I try to follow the translation 8>)
> G
> 



                
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