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Thanks very much Stephen. Never had any problems with e-mail till I started paying for a 'real' account w/Ma Bell. Really appreciate your help! david >From: S V G <vsyevolod@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re:CFC's for Repeater >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:01:31 -0800 (PST) > > > David, > > Check out the archives at the RepeaterUsers Yahoo group for all the >findings on CFC >compatibility. > > Secondly, you do not have your email client configured properly to >send/recieve mail from >this list. I would suggest contacting your ISP. Better yet, just get a >Yahoo email account and >subscribe to this list through it. > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > Hi all. Been lurking around the site for years & finally joined up. > > Everything's going into my junkmail folder, and the only time I >answered >to > > a post, it went straight to the sender. I didn't see my own message >till > > they responded. I guess I'll have to cut&paste from my junkmail to my >inbox > > in order to participate. Bit of a pain, but no more difficult than >making > > accurate loops with my old PDS8000. > > > > Anyway, I've never been able to find a CFC that worked w/my Repeater, >other > > than the SimpleTech 32MB that it shipped with. I've tried the >recommended > > brands w/no success, and they're not easy to return, considering that > > there's nothing really wrong w/them, other than their incompatability >w/the > > Repeater. I understand that the 'Hitachi control chip set' is crucial, >but > > am met w/blank stares at computer & camera stores. The cards never >indicate > > that info either. > > > > Of all the vagaries & peculiarities of the Repeater, this one's the >most > > vexing to me. Are cards w/this chip still being made? Where can I get >one in > > Canada? > > > > Thanks, > > David Rolling > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:45:07 -0600 > > From: Suit & Tie Guy <erwill@suitandtieguy.com> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part > > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :) > > > > > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions! > > > > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's > > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does with > > the RC-20s. > > --- > > Eric Williamson > > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:18:38 +0000 > > From: a k butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > > > Gary says > > >It sorta looks like FB is achievable with an expression pedal, > > > > how'd ya figure that? > > I read the info as saying "no feedback control, but can do a fade out > > on switch off of the loop" > > > > ...but I want you to be right :-) > > > > Kris says > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does this unit provide > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you record a loop, you > > >aren't limited to that length for additional loops? I wasn't sure if > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature. > > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of either unsynced, > > or exactly the same length. > > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an unsynced loop to fit. > > > > andy butler > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:21:35 -0500 > > From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> > > To: mungenast@earthlink.net > > CC: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: Re: fretless fest > > > > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing >frets?? > > > > On 11/7/05, Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Gang: > > > The 12/05 Guitar Player magazine has a sidebar on the NYC Fretless >Guitar > > > Festival, which I'm sure some of you attended. > > > ( www.unfretted.com ) > > > > > > Sonic Joy, > > > Tim Mungenast > > > > > > > > > > > > Timothy Mungenast > > > mungenast@earthlink.net > > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > /t > > > > http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:07:52 -0500 > > From: "Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: fretless fest > > > > Nice one, man! Thanks for the much-needed laugh! > > ~Tim > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> > > > To: <mungenast@earthlink.net> > > > Cc: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > Date: 11/8/2005 4:21:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: fretless fest > > > > > > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing > > frets?? > > > > > > On 11/7/05, Timothy Mungenast <mungenast@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Gang: > > > > The 12/05 Guitar Player magazine has a sidebar on the NYC Fretless > > Guitar > > > > Festival, which I'm sure some of you attended. > > > > ( www.unfretted.com ) > > > > > > > > Sonic Joy, > > > > Tim Mungenast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timothy Mungenast > > > > mungenast@earthlink.net > > > > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > /t > > > > > > http://ax.to ... extreme NY arts and music calendar > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:07:31 -0800 > > From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: fretless fest > > > > I think they're still saving up for a tuner to share between them... > > > > On 11/8/05, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote: > > > Did they manage to raise enough money to buy themselves the missing >frets?? > > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:33:00 -0700 > > From: "Kris Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > > > > Kris says > > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does this unit provide > > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you record a loop, you > > > >aren't limited to that length for additional loops? I wasn't sure if > > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature. > > > > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of either unsynced, > > > or exactly the same length. > > > > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an unsynced loop to fit. > > > > > > andy butler > > > > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch transposition, I >assume? > > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like function in one of these > > units? > > > > Kris > > > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:35 +0100 (CET) > > From: Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > > > Do we have any info about its price and availability ? > > > > --- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> a écrit : > > > > > > Kris says > > > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does > > > this unit provide > > > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you > > > record a loop, you > > > > >aren't limited to that length for additional > > > loops? I wasn't sure if > > > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature. > > > > > > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of > > > either unsynced, > > > > or exactly the same length. > > > > > > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an > > > unsynced loop to fit. > > > > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch > > > transposition, I assume? > > > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like > > > function in one of these > > > units? > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! >Messenger > > Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:47:24 -0800 (PST) > > From: ditch wrestler <ditchwrestler@yahoo.com> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > > > I had my LMS guy call Roland Canada and the rep he spoke to said this >was the first he had > > heard/seen of the unit. > > > > The rep said, though, that this isn't uncommon for Roland and that >based >on past experience, > > it'll probably be at the Winter NAMM show. > > > > > > ted. > > > > Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr> wrote: > > Do we have any info about its price and availability ? > > > > --- Kris Hartung a écrit : > > > > > > Kris says > > > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does > > > this unit provide > > > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you > > > record a loop, you > > > > >aren't limited to that length for additional > > > loops? I wasn't sure if > > > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature. > > > > > > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of > > > either unsynced, > > > > or exactly the same length. > > > > > > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an > > > unsynced loop to fit. > > > > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch > > > transposition, I assume? > > > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like > > > function in one of these > > > units? > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! >Messenger > > Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > >Date: >Tue, 08 Nov 2005 >23:49:03 +0000 > > From: "David Rolling" <david_rolling@sympatico.ca> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > > > A poster from thegearpage e-mailed Roland who replied that it would be > > featured at winter NAMM and shipping sometime next year. No info on >price. > > > > BTW- I'm new & trying to participate here, but when I send to the LD >mailing > > list, the message come straight back to my inbox. The only way >anything >I > > write turns up is when I respond to a pre-existing post. What am I >diong > > wrong? > > > > thanks, > > David Rolling > > > > > > >From: Romain <rtristelune@yahoo.fr> > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >Subject: Re: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:35 +0100 (CET) > > > > > >Do we have any info about its price and availability ? > > > > > >--- Kris Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> a écrit : > > > > > > > > Kris says > > > > > >It wasn't clear to me in the prior emails...does > > > > this unit provide > > > > > >something equivalent to Multiply so that once you > > > > record a loop, you > > > > > >aren't limited to that length for additional > > > > loops? I wasn't sure if > > > > > >the phrase 1, 2, 3 buttons added this feature. > > > > > > > > > > Current info seems to be that you have a choice of > > > > either unsynced, > > > > > or exactly the same length. > > > > > > > > > > the fun thing is, seems it will time stretch an > > > > unsynced loop to fit. > > > > > > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > That's interesting...time stretch without pitch > > > > transposition, I assume? > > > > Is it just too hard to develop a multiply-like > > > > function in one of these > > > > units? > > > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>___________________________________________________________________________ > > >Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! >Messenger > > >Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:46:33 -0600 > > From: "Mark Smart" <mwsmart@insightbb.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > > > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part > > > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :) > > > > > > > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions! > > > > > > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's > > > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does >with > > > the RC-20s. > > > --- > > > Eric Williamson > > > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > > Hi. > > Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, >and >the > > Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time pretty >well if I > > do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one pedal at a >time. > > > > I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts >and > > ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all the >looping. > > And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. Unfortunately I have >to wait > > 6-8 weeks for them to build it! > > > > If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s >(old kind), > > a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon. > > > > Mark Smart > > http://www.marksmart.net/ > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:56:06 -0800 > > From: David Coffin <dpcoffin@earthlink.net> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > Ooo! PLEASE keep us updated on how this works out! VERY interesting... > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Mark Smart wrote: > > > > > I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go > > > nuts and > > > ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all > > > the looping. > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 04:18:29 +0100 > > From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: AW: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > Could you think about making your Reaktor looping ensembles available >to > > the public domain? I have been thinking about doing something in >reaktor > > for a long time, yet didn't invest the time to get familiar with this > > beast. > > > > Rainer > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Mark Smart [mailto:mwsmart@insightbb.com] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 01:47 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Betreff: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > > > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part > > > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :) > > > > > > > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions! > > > > > > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's > > > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does > > > with the RC-20s. > > > --- > > > Eric Williamson > > > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > > Hi. > > Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, >and > > the Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time >pretty > > well if I do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one > > pedal at a time. > > > > I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts > > and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all >the > > looping. And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. >Unfortunately > > I have to wait 6-8 weeks for them to build it! > > > > If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s > > (old kind), a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon. > > > > Mark Smart > > http://www.marksmart.net/ > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:02:53 -0600 > > From: "Mark Smart" <mwsmart@insightbb.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > Sure, I'm not as posessive about that stuff as I am about the big band >synth. I > > already started working it out on my PC using the Tapedeck modules in >Reaktor. > > Basically there is a big sequencer that you set up for each song. For >each step > > in the sequence you tell it what to do using a bunch of buttons. I >also >had it > > set up to control the switching of the bass and guitar sounds of the >strings on > > the guitar (right now I'm using a switch on the guitar to do this). > > > > So I would set up the steps something like this: > > > > 1. Play the hi-hat drum loop and run all six strings through the >octave >divider > > for a bass sound. > > > > 2. Do the same as above, but recording the result into tapedeck 1. > > > > 3. Play a crash cymbal. Now switch to a drum loop at the same tempo >but >with a > > ride cymbal. Continue running all six strings through the octave >divider. Record > > the result into Tapedaeck 2. > > > > 4. Play back Tapedeck 1. Run all six strings through the guitar amp >simulator. > > (I would play the tune's head on this part). > > > > 5. Play a crash. Play back Tapedeck 2. Continue running all six >strings >through > > the guitar amp simulator (I would play a solo on this part). > > > > 6. Play a crash. Play back Tapedeck one. (I would play the head again >on >this > > part. > > > > 7. Silence (I would play a break on this part, like a Take the A Train >ending or > > a BAsie ending. > > > > 8. Play a crash. Run the bottom two strings through the octave divider >and the > > top four through the amp simulator. (I would play the last chord on >this >part). > > > > End of tune. I use a pedal to advance the sequencer to the next step >at >the > > right time. > > > > Pretty cool. Reaktor is the ultimate looping device if it's set up >correctly. > > > > On the NeKo I will also be able to run the Native Instruments B4 >program >and > > feed it into Reaktor; that way I can lay down a jazz organ >accompaniment >and > > then play guitar over it. > > > > Eventually I will incorporate the big band synth into it: > > > > >http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/windsounds/reaktorbigband/reaktorbigband.html > > > > I'm pretty excited about the possibilities! > > > > Mark Smart > > http://www.marksmart.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:18 PM > > Subject: AW: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > > > Could you think about making your Reaktor looping ensembles available >to > > the public domain? I have been thinking about doing something in >reaktor > > for a long time, yet didn't invest the time to get familiar with this > > beast. > > > > Rainer > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Mark Smart [mailto:mwsmart@insightbb.com] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 01:47 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Betreff: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Suit & Tie Guy" <erwill@suitandtieguy.com> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 2:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RC-50: simultaneous loops-different lengths? > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > > > > Or an ambient guitar player playing a 3.237485 measure melodic part > > > > over a 12.34902 bar bed of drones? :) > > > > > > > > I can't wait to find out the answers to these questions! > > > > > > i can see this thing bringing a whole new dimension to Mark Smart's > > > guitar act. i can't believe he gets it together as well as he does > > > with the RC-20s. > > > --- > > > Eric Williamson > > > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > > Hi. > > Glad you like the looping setup. I use the RC-20s for playback only, >and > > the Echoplex to do the main looping. I can keep the loops in time >pretty > > well if I do it in such a way that I never have to hit more than one > > pedal at a time. > > > > I won't be getting an RC-50, though, because I just decided to go nuts > > and ordered an Open Labs NeKo, on which I will run Reaktor to do all >the > > looping. And I can add my synthesizer big band horns, too. >Unfortunately > > I have to wait 6-8 weeks for them to build it! > > > > If this works out as well as I think I might have a couple of RC-20s > > (old kind), a Jamman AND an Echoplex for sale soon. > > > > Mark Smart > > http://www.marksmart.net/ > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:41:15 -0800 > > From: Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: gig spam: cello loops in seattle, 11/11 > > > > Hi Loopers, > > > > I'll be playing in a looped cello set in Seattle on Friday, Nov 11th > > as part of the Rockrgrl Conference. Please, if you live in the > > Seattle area, or happen to be there this weekend, come out and see me!! > > > > Here are the details: > > Friday, Nov 11th > > midnight > > $7 > > Rendevous Grotto > > 2322 2nd Avenue > > > > venue website:http://www.jewelboxtheater.com/main/event.php?id=664 > > my site: http:///www.zoekeating.com > > > > Thank you very, very much, > > > > Zoe > > > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:50:15 -0800 > > From: "Gary Lehmann" <hqr@cox.net> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Subject: RE: RC-50 FB? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: a k butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:19 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re:RC-50 ..the big questions > > > > Gary says > > >It sorta looks like FB is achievable with an expression pedal, > > > > how'd ya figure that? > > I read the info as saying "no feedback control, but can do a fade out > > on switch off of the loop" > > > > ...but I want you to be right :-) > > > > --->Translation says: > > As for the RC-50, while re-raising the phrase, tap * tempo and outside >of > > the pedal with the expression * pedal which you connect, it is >possible >to > > change refresh rate into real time. > > > > But my head hurts when I try to follow the translation 8>) > > G > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs