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Rainer All good info with one small clarification - the only PDS series pedals that do modulated delay are the 20/20 and the 2700. The other PDS delays (1000, 2000, 8000) don't have modulation sections. Ernest On Nov 27, 2005, at 3:32 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Janosch, > > regarding devices in the lower price range: > > The DD20 seems to be a fine tool, plus it offers several delay > algorithms. Other loopers in the same price range are the Boss > RC-20/RC-20XL, the Digitech Jamman and the Line6 DL4. Among these > three, > the Line6 has by far the shortest loop length (14s or 28s in > halfspeed), > but offers single-shot (for stuttering effects), reverse and half- > speed > functionality. The RC-20 and RC-20XL does also offer reverse, but none > of the other ones offers the other two options. Plus, the DL4 has also > some interesting delay algorithms (albeit with a short delay time > of ~3s > or half of it for the reverse delay). The Akai Headrush would also > be in > the same league regarding price and features. I did own the older E-1 > variant, which offers either a 23s delay or a 23s looper (albeit only > half of that if you do overdubs, which you can undo). > > Depending on the way you work with loops, some delay-based effects > might > also be in the running. TC Electronic's D-Two offers a maximum of > 10seconds in mono, and has some whacked forward/reverse rhythmic > tapped > delays, dynamic delays as well as added filters and modulators. There > are also a lot of vintage devices, some of them might be had at a good > price and provide lots of fun: Digitech's RDS/PDS series offer > modulated > delays with a length of up to 8s (in the PDS8000). Then there's the > Lexicon Vortex, which can be used as a textural looper (with a maximum > loop length of something like 1.67s cascading both delay lines). > There's > also the original Lexicon Jamman, although I know nothing about this > one. > > If using a computer would be an option for you, there are some > tools in > the market as well. Mac users seem to enjoy AugustusLoop a lot, while > for win platforms there's a emulation of eight EDPs called Mobius - > both > come as VST effects (Moebius also as standalone). For a listing of > software loop solutions, you might take a look at Bernhard Wagner's > list > here http://tinyurl.com/b8lw6. > > Finally, let me state that it's also but not only about the tools. > Just > like you, I started to do looplike stuff with very limited setups > (in my > case, the combination of the delay algos of a Boss SE-50 and a > digitech > StudioQuad), which really limited my possibilities. Nowadays, I'm able > to use a DL4, an Eclipse, a Vortex and a Repeater for loop stuff - but > there's a lot of really interesting stuff you can do e.g. with a DL4 > alone, or with a combo of, say, a DD20 and a Virtualizer. In most > of my > sessions and concerts with my improvised dance outfit "Eclectic > Blah", I > rely on the looping possibilities of the DL4 exclusively, and > especially > in a band context, this is really enough. > > Welcome to our strange world! > > Rainer > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Janosch K. [mailto:daasp@gmx.net] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. November 2005 15:43 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: New here and looking for a looping device > > > Hello all, > > May a few words regarding my person first. I'm 19 and from Wuppertal > ,Germany, being a Synth/Keyboard-player for 3 years and studying > law at > the university. Listening to Prog Rock like Yes and King Crimson. I > found this wonderful site few weeks ago and kept reading quite a bit > since them. My interest for looping came up when I got my hand on a > Behringer Multi-FX device, the Virtualizer DSP 2024, but I never did > much looping until one month ago, when I got my Roland GR1 guitar > synth, > > which seems to be the perfect soundtool for my needs. So i > experimented > a lot with loops, even if the device only has 5 seconds of delay > time it > > was a very nice experience and I can spend hours with it, with adding > new stuff constantly and fading out the old stuff by controlling the > feedback. And you never know how the whole thing will develop. And > now, > I'm looking for a device, that offers more delay/loop time. I have > read > great things about the Oberheim/Gibson Echoplex and TC 2290, but they > are out of my price range, so I took a look on the Boss DD20, which > seems to be very nice with it's 23 seconds of loop or delay time (as I > read in a Looper's Delight review, you can even have 46 seconds). Also > it keeps the ongoing delay when you switch programs. I'm going to test > it soon, are there any comments on this device? In my opinion, it > should > > be fine enough to start with. Or are there any alternatives out there? > > Thanks in advance! > > All the best, Janosch > >