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I think I understand and agree with Kim's distinction between an RTOS hardware looper and looping software run on a Mac or a PC and I take his point. What I'm interested more in, quite frankly, is what are the practical distinctions from a musical standpoint between the two paradigms? If you use either one of these in front of an audience, making your loops in real time, the only important factor from a musical standpoint is how they differ in rhythmic feel while using them. I've been a hardware person so far in my looping but have to confess that laptop driven software looping programs have their decided appeal and I'm considering trying out a system that uses both. I wonder if we could hear, in particular, from people like Per Boysen and Matthias Grob.................people who have extensive, real time performing experience with RTOS hardware and nonRTOS software run on computers. What are the practical and musical applications of these two paradigms, you guys (and anyone else with this experience). Also, how reliable do you find connecting the two kinds of systems via MIDI in a real time musical performance? ***********