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>>>> anybody think of some other controllers that might do a good job? I can build to spec. Granted I can't (and won't) compete with Behringer or anyone mass producing for consumer market pricing. That's just not possible for me. There have been a few off list discussions that have come up since my intro post so i am bringing this up here for the masses. If the loopers collectively could agree on a specific optimum design for a controller, I could look into making runs of at least 50 units, which would dramatically lower the price. Potentially this could be done individually for the EDP, RPTR, etc.. and perhaps someday the looperlative (fingers crossed for you, it sounds cool so far, i will surely take it for a spin at NAMM). Sort of like a 'Loopers-Delight Edition". I know that agreeing is one of the hardest things for humans, especially musicians, especially scientific-thinking musicians (see current debate on the nyquist frequency and sampling rates) But it's just a thought to be tossed around for now. I'm afraid I have very little consumable documentation on the devices I have built, but I am trying to track things down and get pictures and videos of them. http://rocknrollmachines.com I already have MY perfect controller. Took me a long time to narrow the options and features, but I am very happy with it now. For my looping performances I use a guitar with midi pickup and a pretty deep Max/MSP patch I've been hammering on for a long time. Here is a breakdown of the hardware and what it does........ Four human interface elements. It's a guitar, a small tabletop controller, a floor controller built into a nice metal briefcase, and also a TINY JLCooper faderbaby for level controls. The guitar outputs several things - Standard 1/4" output from magnetic pickups, Hexaphonic output from the piezos (used for both acoustic tone and conversion to MIDI), and a separate midi output for the built-in controller. The Max patch is basically a 6 channel delay line enabling me to loop anywhere from a 64th note to 64 bars. It is compatible with any time signature with 4, 8, or 16 on the bottom. There are also sources within the patch, one for drums sounds, one for guitar processing, one for sampled sounds, one for synth sounds. and now for the hardware.... floorbox - 6 footswitches with BiColor indicator LEDs and 4 expression pedals the 6 switches enable the 6 loops. the 4 expression pedals are reassigned to many parameters by faders on the JLCopper. One pedal is always a crossfader between the guitar tone and the synth (controlled by the guitar) so i can rock back and forth between Jimi Hendrix and Jan Hammer. tabletop- 7 knobs, 9 momentary pushbuttons 2 switches 6 knobs are for the loop time in bars, (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64) 6 momentary push buttons act as operator switchers, when pushed the 4 bar looptime becomes 1/4. This is how i get down to 64ths. because i am using a delay line i am able to drop in something like a 16th note roll and it will become part of the larger 16 bar loop. the other knob, switches and buttons are top secret. (hint - i can do triplets and dotted values, and random numbers are involved in some other things) built-into the guitar - 3 knobs, 7 switches, 5 velo sensitive triggers pads 3 of the switches and the 3 CC knobs are set to parameters of the guitar processor and the synth vst. the other 4 switches control what sounds will come out when i play the trigger pads on the face of the guitar. Pretty simple, once you pick it up and noodle for 5 minutes, but it took me a long time to get it to this usable stage. I'm also finally getting used to using this without the computer in sight, I hope to rackmount a mac mini or something to avoid having the powerbook on stage. A major part of getting to that point was being sure that all the necessary parameters were given place for visual feedback on the hardware. What would YOUR perfect controller have? - b