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I dunno--we're pretty busy trying to agree on the difference between a sine and a square wave. Once that's settled, the perfect looper MIDI controller spec will be forthcoming... TravisH On 12/16/05, Brian Cass <b@the0verclock.com> wrote: > > If the loopers collectively could agree on a specific optimum design > for a controller, I could look into making runs of at least 50 units, > which would dramatically lower the price.