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Hi Andy - all is well in Wales - you should pop over sometime! Sorry to harp on but the dfference is that a d to a converter may attrempt to emulate a sine based on A NUMBER of squares not just one - hence my statement. I'm sure we agree but there seemed to be a lot of mis- information happening around here - uncharacteristic for this list it has to be said!! Gareth > >> No sampler can "guess" a sine wave from a square. >>How would it know that you wanted a sine wave? Think of sines and >squares >>as just different shapes. >> >>Gareth > > hi Gareth, > well believe it or not that's exactly what a good D/A converter does, > (and what a bad one tries to do) > The converter assumes that the signal it is trying to re-create is > band limited, i.e. that it is describable as a mixture of sin waves all >of > which are below the Nyquist frequency. > In essence, the digital output is passed through a lo-pass filter with > a cut-off at around 20kHz. > As you're no doubt aware, all filters "ring" somewhat, they have > something of a tendency to oscillate at their resonant frequency. > The converter can then guess at the waveform at high frequencies, > even though it's only represented by a few samples. > By varying the Q of the filter, the amount of "ring" is controllable, > which is why some converters sound dull, and some sound > bright but unnatural. > > hope all is well in Wales > > andy butler > >