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This gives me an idea: Why don't we publish an open letter on the LD website specifically for manufacturers describing these required fundamental features. Along with the frustration that the knowledge has been around for so long and still doesn't get incorporated in new products. Bernhard > -----Original Message----- > From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com] > Sent: Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2005 03:40 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Digitech Jamman vs Boss Loopstation vs Extreme Negativity > > After years and years of discussion on desireable features for looping > devices, it's frustrating to see that publically available information > go seemingly unheeded by manufacturers. One can produce "something > worth listening to" with any bit of gear, but imagine if stereo > manufacturers kept trying to sell you something with only two volume > settings--"off" and "on". Once you'd seen a stereo with a volume > control, one without that feature just seems silly, even though you > could listen to music on it and put a towel or two over the speaker to > make it quieter. >