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On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > ok, here's another kind of position in this debate: > > The instrument I play is "effects". I sometimes hide these effects > behind > playing on something non-effect, like a guitar or keyboard. > That is good! Made me smile. Thank you! I hate the term "effects" in this kind of conversation...it sounds too much like something that is applied to the music, instead being the music. The same reason I don't like the word "technology." There is too much of a dichotomy being created between instruments and "effects." They are all instruments. My Max/MSP patch is a software instrument, my horn is a wind instrument. But then again, if we get rid of that dichotomy, much of this conversation is done... best, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com