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hi, first off, thanks Ian and Art for your comments and suggestions. i think the one Art mentions is more what i am looking for. i've seen various models i can't recall at the moment that seemed great, but they're usually over $500, sometimes even over $1,000. that's just too much for what i am considering. i did see something just now that looks pretty good: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/HiFi/A/V/Equipment/Home/Audio? sku=244762 a Sony Pro MZ-M10 Hi-MD Portable Audio Recorder. it comes with a good stereo mic, records a gig on removable media, has high quality/ fidelity, is physically small and, being Sony, most likely well-made. and it's only $300. still, i was really think of something under $150, much closer to what Art mentions. i am living in Brazil and want to have something i wouldn't be too upset about loosing or having stolen, that i can carry around and whip out when, as often happens, i am surprised by some great music or ambient sounds. and of course it would be much nicer if there was a digital out, as opposed to analog, so i could dump to computer easily for clean-up and/or manipulation of the recordings. i have seen Olympus and others with sub-$100 audio recorders, but often they don't have either a digital connection or even half-way decent sound resolution. another option is a digital camera or cellphone, which often record pretty decent audio and have a digital connection, but these are usually too expensive - i.e, i wouldn't want to flash one around in many of the places i am thinking of recording. so thanks again for the tips and ideas! i'll let you know what i end up with and how it works out ;) -3nki On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Ian Popperwell wrote: > Hi, > > The trouble is that you don't say what "cheap" means for you - > neither do you say which "non-cheap" models that you've seen that > might help us. > > Whether cheap or expensive, I have an Edirol R-1 (about £300). It > records to Compact Flash cards (although only comes with a tiny > one). it has built in effects (including various "mastering" > programmes which are multiband compressors, it also has a limiter > which is additional to the effects. It records directly to WAV or > various resolutions of MP3. Goes straight into USB and doesn't need > any of it's own software. I have a few small gripes: fiddly level > control, you can only monitor levels in record pause mode, not when > recording, the screen is very faint. But I like mine, I've recorded > gigs from the desk and with the built in mics, I use it for > recording practices too and loads of other jobs. > > There's also a similarly priced M-Audio one and a much highr priced > Marantz with XLRs and fantom power. > > I have an Iriver MP3 player which records - IHP120 - but as has > already bee said, the built in mic is rubbish+ it picks up hard > disk noise, also quite fiddly to work with. > > Hope this is of some use. > > Ian. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "3nki" <3nki@modaldub.net> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:43 PM > Subject: looking for: a cheap portable digital audio recorder > > >> hello list! >> >> i am looking for a cheap and portable digital audio recorder. >> i've seen some nice ones, but they aren't cheap at all. perhaps >> some people on the list have ideas? ;) >> >> important qualities: >> - built-in mic >> - USB or Firewire connection to computer >> >> desirable: >> - built-in compression >> - decent audio quality >> - stereo recording >> >> thanks for any advice! >> >> -3nki >> >> > > > >