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>>>>>>>>>I shudder to think that there are people that actually prefer the web forum format over email when forums are so clumsy, immature (technology wise), feature poor, and inefficient. Yes, heaven forbid someone have a different preference than you! I think some of you frequent the wrong message boards. I've never found the many active boards that i frequent to be 'clumsy, feature poor, or inefficient'. As a matter of fact, I'd say all of those apply to email lists, but I'm not silly enough to assume that my preferences should be the gold standard. I mean- let's post some pictures of our setups! Oh wait, can't do that. Let's post some clips of our work to one central web location wher everyone can look at everything in one spot! Oh wait, can't do that. How about an off topic forum where people who have one thing in common (looping) can discuss other aspects of the universe we live in- oh wait, can't do that.....all very very simple things to accomplish in a message board format. People like different things- what get's me fired up is when someone tries to simply declare that their way is the best, and somehow anyone who disagrees just doesn't understand. Also- I think it's rather condescending to assume that because someone prefers a different format that it somehow impies that they don't know how to use their computer/email. "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <calenlas@gmail.com> cc: 04/25/2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Message Board Please respond to Loopers-Delight Well said Ian. I agree one hundred percent. I would postulate that those that always complain about the email list (whether in comparision to a web forum or digests) simply aren't using their mail client to it's fullest potential. Email is THE electronic way to hold conversations. The applications have matured for more than twenty years now. Take the time to 1) find a good email client, 2) learn how to use it, and 3) customize it's filters and sorting to work the way you want it to. Now, this is important so let's say it again: Learn to make the computer do what you want it to. Failing all that, use GMail <http://mail.google.com>. It's free and a joy to use. You lose some flexibility, but it's conversation views, filtering, and labelling are straight forward and easy to use. I shudder to think that there are people that actually prefer the web forum format over email when forums are so clumsy, immature (technology wise), feature poor, and inefficient. It makes me wonder what the rest of their computing experience must be like if a web forum is the pinacle of achievment by which other technologies are found lacking. So, in short: love the list, love email, keep it as it is, make your computer work for you, and down with web forums. ;) Todd On 4/24/06, Ian Petersen <iep@mail.dk> wrote: > Matthew, > > > I personally find message boards so much more conveinent than mailing > > lists. > > I find quite the reverse is true. Message boards are OK for stuff like > product support where you don't need to follow a conversation - just ask > a question, get an answer and get out. But they rarely have decent > threading, making it impossible to know who is saying what to whom. And, > since most web-boards use some sort of time-based cookie arrangement for > marking posts read or unread, you never can be sure whether you haven't > missed an important message or not. Even worse is the fact that you have > to manually go out and fetch each and every message yourself - perhaps > from half a dozen or more different boards, each with their own > interface and way of working. This is extremely ineffective. It takes me > the same time to skim through a couple of dozen web-board messages as it > does to skim a couple of hundred emails ... > > With mailing lists all my messages come to me automatically without > having to lift a finger. My mail app sorts them into nicely threaded > folders for me to read at my leisure - presented in a consistent and > controllable interface no matter where the messages come from. And I'm > certain I have all the messages a thread for further reference. In fact > I have in my current messagebase every email and news message I've sent > or received since 1996! It's a goldmine of information on a variety of > subjects that would be impossible to assimilate in any other way. > > -- > > Ian Petersen > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------