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Oh yeah, absolutely understood. Just reinforcing. The idea of it as a programming language kept me from jumping to max for years, since it came out. I was intimidated by that, and it turns out mistakenly so. Then I got very tired of carrying around 140+ pounds of gear and cables. the train in london last august was the final straw. So I guess I have the currently avowedly non-laptop performer Steve Lawson to thank for moving me to laptop. (He does stuff with laptop at his house, though, I think.)....down to 43 pounds for the festival in Boise, and 20 of that is the case. My goal is to get it down to a laptop case and trumpet case.... Jeff (sitting down right now with a pot of tea and max....) Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On May 5, 2006, at 11:00 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > I didn't mean to focus on that aspect, I only wanted to point out that > the more > complex ideas require more of an understanding at that level... that's > why I > pointed out the simplistic route as well... because of that, the exact > dynamic > you describe happens.. :) at a basic level, it's just like plugging > cables > between fx boxes, and tweaking the parameters... > > peace