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b p t wrote: > Liddel is def. using MAX/MSP. Yes, he's a self-confessed MaxMSP user. He apparently took a few months off to write his own patch. How "from scratch" it was is a bit hard to tell, though. > There are severeal variations of essentially the same multi-channel looping patch floating around out there; each user basically customizes the features. AFAIR loops can be synced to internal clock, offset shifted, loop windows opened, pitch adjusted, etc. There are some popular MAX objects which have contributed to the spreading of these capabilities. Yes. The main problem is that any real "loopers building blocks" system isn't in place. Instead people are working with relatively low-level systems, creating their own sync sources, etc. - which keeps it out reach for many. Even very established rigs like "lloopp" for Max are EXTREMELY obscure to me. I guess most max-users don't go for K.I.S.S. ;) a.