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m a r k - perhaps we have different concept of what it means to create loop based music in "real time". all i'm expressing is that this device allows me to construct precisely synched sets of loops by playing instruments on the spot during a performance, rather than relying on pre-recorded bits or staring boringly into a laptop screen. feedback control is not particularly important for me, and it's very easy to remove and add loops from the set while the other two are still going, not to mention the possibilities for complex layering and further manipulation and that arise when sequencing software is woven in. maybe you're some kind of evolving ambiance artist or something which is fine, but i can't really understand why you would attempt to deride my comments with a condescending tone. in any case, i hope somebody makes the perfect looper for you so you'll be happy. - n a t h a n