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--- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > Well Mark I'd be curious as to how you did the JC120 > thingy on the tonelab Here's my settings. Of course with a different guitar/pa setup your mileage will vary. First I start with the Boutique Clean amp model gain: 2.3 vr gain 7.8 treb 2.4 mid 7.2 bass 10 TURN OFF THE CAB models. This is the key I think. Wait, you're asking, where's the chorus? Good question. While the Tonelab's effects are good, since I'm always slaved to a MIDI clock I like my presets set up to follow them too. For that I love the VF-1. So much so I bought two! Here's how that's set up: I started off with a patch called "3D CHORUS" it's basically a 4 band EQ that I turn off and roland's nice stereo chours that I love so much. Polarity: Invert rate BPM/whole note depth 80 predelay 10ms low cut: flat high cut: flat effect level 100% then I make sure the master bpm is set for MIDI and viola, it syncs up all nice. Would it stand up next to the real thing? I don't know but I love the sound anyway and I haven't owned a JC-120 since the mid 80s. Basically I wish someone would make an amp modeler that would have everything synced like I like it, but it seems no one is/will. The Vox was supposed to be a way to loose the rack for small gigs, and I still keep alt presets set up when I don't want to drag out the FV-1... but I never use them. I know, NI's guitar rig.... Give me some time, I'm just now awaking to the wonders of Laptop looping. Man did I have an amazing night with Mobius last night. Mark > (and why???? in gods name) and Actually like most > of the stomp box effects > on the tonelab allot except, the overdrive and > distortion models on the > front end; a klon clone, even more exaggerated mid > range honk than the > original, a tube screamer model , that just doesn't > rattle my cage, and a > rat model, zzzzzzzz, among others, though the > octavia octave, and ring > modulator effects are quite nice. My solution was, > until a week ago, to > pirate my fulltone fulldrive from my gig rig pedal > board, and stick it in > the tonelabs effects loop (which is at the front of > the chain). Well last > week I got my new twin tube pedal from Seymour > Duncan, and I am just dumb > struck at how good this thing sounds driving the > front end of the tonelab. > Since it uses two subminiature tubes running at high > plate voltage, it adds > tremendous dynamics and dimension not to mention two > channels of anything > from clean boost with a hint of extra fatness, to > very saturated, yet smooth > and singing overdrive, all with great touch > sensitivity. I just submitted a > review to Harmony Central, in which I shamelessly > gushed about how good it > sounds. Since I like many of the delay and > modulation presets on the tone > lab, and I'm not a big flange or chorus guy, I was > just searching for a > more natural sounding overdrive to compliment the > tweed, black face, early > marshall, and vox models I tend to use, and boy does > this puppy fit the > bill. > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark sottilaro > [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:11 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp > > > --- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > > > Mark has a point, > > I thought you couldn't notice it with my hair style! > > > > Do take > > note that the vox people did not see fit to model > a > > transistor amp, not jazz > > chorus model ala line 6. So if that is your mind > set > > maybe the vox ain't for > > you. > > Wait! There's MORE! I did find a way to get a good > JC120 sound out of the Tonelab! I forget how now... > I'll check tonight and let you know. I know the key > was leaving out either the amp modeling stage or cab > modeling stage. Also, I found I got better results > when I use the VF-1's stereo chorus (which I know > Kris > has a couple of) > > I have to say that as much as I like some of the > stompbox models of the Tonelab, when I'm in the > studio > I ditch them in favor of the VF-1's which I feel are > really great (and MIDI syncable which the tonelab > sadly isn't) Don't sell them Kris, you'll be sad. > Also I found they're one of the best processor out > there for putting distortion on keyboard sounds > (though not for guitar) > > Mark > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com