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Thanks, Mark, I think I'll try out yoru VF1 settings two on one of mine..you have two too? They look nice side by side, don't they... Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark sottilaro" <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> To: <billwalker@baymoon.com>; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: OT: Tonelab JC-120 emulation > --- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > >> Well Mark I'd be curious as to how you did the JC120 >> thingy on the tonelab > > Here's my settings. Of course with a different > guitar/pa setup your mileage will vary. > > First I start with the Boutique Clean amp model > gain: 2.3 > vr gain 7.8 > treb 2.4 > mid 7.2 > bass 10 > TURN OFF THE CAB models. This is the key I think. > > Wait, you're asking, where's the chorus? Good > question. While the Tonelab's effects are good, since > I'm always slaved to a MIDI clock I like my presets > set up to follow them too. For that I love the VF-1. > So much so I bought two! > > Here's how that's set up: > I started off with a patch called "3D CHORUS" it's > basically a 4 band EQ that I turn off and roland's > nice stereo chours that I love so much. > Polarity: Invert > rate BPM/whole note > depth 80 > predelay 10ms > low cut: flat > high cut: flat > effect level 100% > > then I make sure the master bpm is set for MIDI and > viola, it syncs up all nice. Would it stand up next > to the real thing? I don't know but I love the sound > anyway and I haven't owned a JC-120 since the mid 80s. > Basically I wish someone would make an amp modeler > that would have everything synced like I like it, but > it seems no one is/will. The Vox was supposed to be a > way to loose the rack for small gigs, and I still keep > alt presets set up when I don't want to drag out the > FV-1... but I never use them. I know, NI's guitar > rig.... Give me some time, I'm just now awaking to the > wonders of Laptop looping. Man did I have an amazing > night with Mobius last night. > > Mark > > >> (and why???? in gods name) and Actually like most >> of the stomp box effects >> on the tonelab allot except, the overdrive and >> distortion models on the >> front end; a klon clone, even more exaggerated mid >> range honk than the >> original, a tube screamer model , that just doesn't >> rattle my cage, and a >> rat model, zzzzzzzz, among others, though the >> octavia octave, and ring >> modulator effects are quite nice. My solution was, >> until a week ago, to >> pirate my fulltone fulldrive from my gig rig pedal >> board, and stick it in >> the tonelabs effects loop (which is at the front of >> the chain). Well last >> week I got my new twin tube pedal from Seymour >> Duncan, and I am just dumb >> struck at how good this thing sounds driving the >> front end of the tonelab. >> Since it uses two subminiature tubes running at high >> plate voltage, it adds >> tremendous dynamics and dimension not to mention two >> channels of anything >> from clean boost with a hint of extra fatness, to >> very saturated, yet smooth >> and singing overdrive, all with great touch >> sensitivity. I just submitted a >> review to Harmony Central, in which I shamelessly >> gushed about how good it >> sounds. Since I like many of the delay and >> modulation presets on the tone >> lab, and I'm not a big flange or chorus guy, I was >> just searching for a >> more natural sounding overdrive to compliment the >> tweed, black face, early >> marshall, and vox models I tend to use, and boy does >> this puppy fit the >> bill. >> Bill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mark sottilaro >> [mailto:zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:11 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: RE: FOR SALE: Mesa Boogie Mark I Combo Amp >> >> >> --- William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: >> >> > Mark has a point, >> >> I thought you couldn't notice it with my hair style! >> >> >> > Do take >> > note that the vox people did not see fit to model >> a >> > transistor amp, not jazz >> > chorus model ala line 6. So if that is your mind >> set >> > maybe the vox ain't for >> > you. >> >> Wait! There's MORE! I did find a way to get a good >> JC120 sound out of the Tonelab! I forget how now... >> I'll check tonight and let you know. I know the key >> was leaving out either the amp modeling stage or cab >> modeling stage. Also, I found I got better results >> when I use the VF-1's stereo chorus (which I know >> Kris >> has a couple of) >> >> I have to say that as much as I like some of the >> stompbox models of the Tonelab, when I'm in the >> studio >> I ditch them in favor of the VF-1's which I feel are >> really great (and MIDI syncable which the tonelab >> sadly isn't) Don't sell them Kris, you'll be sad. >> Also I found they're one of the best processor out >> there for putting distortion on keyboard sounds >> (though not for guitar) >> >> Mark >> >> Mark >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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