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You mention the PCM81, and I agree with the fellow who said get the PSP plug in. I own it and it's great... actually like Augustus Loop more but that's another conversation... If you like the Lexicon sound I recommend maybe a MPX-1. I honestly never compared it to any of the machines you asked about, but I've always loved mine and they can be found rather inexpensively on ebay. I think mine was abount $400 at Guitar Center but it could have been a return and had definately been in their demo rack for a while. Anyway, I think it has great sound and a decent amount of horsepower. I love the fact that it has an A/B button so you can do a timed slide from one set of perameters to another. M --- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25 jun 2006, at 05.07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > I'd like to get your thoughts on the Eventide > Eclipse, TC > > Electronic Fireworx, TC Electrronics G-Force, and > Lexicon PCM81. > > Hi Kris, > > I own a Fireworx and I have once borrowed an Eclipse > for two months > (to decide which one I should go for and also to > write a test review > of the Eclipse for a guitar player magazine here in > Sweden). I > finally went for the Fireworx because I found one on > a sale at a very > good price. I also like that the Fireworx is smaller > and lighter. The > Eclipse is quite big and heavy. But sound-wise I > think they are > rather equal. What the Eclipse has that you won't > get with the > Fireworx is the option to use pre-programmed scales > for the pitch > shift function. This means you can use a MIDI > footpedal to change > scale and have the machine add two notes behind the > note you are > playing, thus creating three piece chords that > follow the scale of > the key. To do that with the Fireworx you have to > stay away from the > third note when programming the patch, so you can > play either a > "major" or a "minor" third with your live instrument > while having the > machine adding fifths or quarter intervals behind > you. In a way I > like this "musician-craft" approach better, because > it's more free > and doesn't lock the performer into a given key. > > It took some time to get into how to program the > Fireworx, but since > I finally managed to wrap my brains around it I just > love it. Both > the Fireworx and the Eventide lack the CPU power to > play patches that > use all available effects. Especially high > resolution reverb is using > lots of CPU. So you have to constantly zap between > patches when you > perform and lay down loop layers. > > One final word on the Fireworx's effect feeback > loop: it sucks > because of latency. When setting up patches inside > the Fireworx you > can put a "feedback send" or "feedback return" at > any place of the > effect chain. This means that part of the signal > will be sent to the > units physical feedback output and retrieved from > the feedback input > (digital or analog - but if you use the main analog > input for your > signal source/instrument only the digital effect > send is available, > and vice versa) But the signal is getting so delayed > in that process > that it's not usable. Speaking about "effect loops" > there is also > another kind of effect loop that you can set up > completely inside the > Fireworx program, but this is another thing and it's > working > perfectly well (define an "insert send" at any part > of an effect > chain and retrieve that signal with a "insert > return" block at an > earlier part so you can "cook" the sound even more > by going through > the same effects again. It's a quite open system and > if you have the > theoretical knowledge about how to create certain > sound with the > normal effect arsenal you should be able to come up > with almost > everything on a fireworx - as long as the CPU power > stays with you > that is ;-) > > However, you can hook up the Fireworx digitally in > an effect loop to > some other software or hardware and then there is no > latency at all. > I sometimes use the Fireworx in Logic, connected > digitally to the RMX > Multiface audio interface and in praxis it's just as > having a bunch > of new - non CPU bogging - plug-ins. This option > also comes with the > Eclipse, but I never tried it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com