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On 25 jun 2006, at 17.28, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Thanks, Per. The effects loop and lack of pre-programmed scales on > the fireworx is not a problem fo me, as I would not use either > function. When you say the Eclipse is big and heavy, you just mean > the length of it in the rack, right? Both are 1 space units. Yes, the Eclipse goes deeper into the rack. And it weights a more as well. When I had one for two months I found it hard to crate original patches that didn't sound like what I have heard other musicians sound like. To my taste the Eclipse had a too big impact on the sound. But some musicians want to use it as a standard effect box and then it may come in handy. My brother played me a piece by Steve Vai, from a record, and I immediately remembered the exact Eclipse preset Vai was playing through ;-) On the Fireworx I have made twenty patches that I use and that is pretty much what I need. It's ok to plug an electric guitar straight into the Fireworx and I was able to create a good plain jazz guitar sound (as far as you can go in that direction with a Strat). I like the compressors, the filters and the pitch shifters. Luca is right about the "clean" sound of the Fwrx. Check out this demo of a Telecaster plugged straight into the Fireworx: http:// www.looproom.com/audio/mobjam2.mp3 I think that recording shows well how the Fireworx compressors and pitch shifters sound on a clean guitar sound. I also managed to make a cool sound with lots of loooong reverb and then a filter cutting down the reverb treble. The built in step sequencer, programmed as a hihat pattern, runs the dynamic filter cut- off and a LFO synced to song tempo adjusts the speed of the "hi-hat filtering". An expression pedal sweeps between all open reverb sound and totally "beat sync filtered" reverb. I think the layout of the Fireworx makes it easy to come up with such fantasy patches. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom