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Okay, I'm trying to be a good boy here and appropriately change the subject heading when I change the topic. UNDO, and I don't mean David Kirkdorffer's stuff, which I highly recommend, by the way. I never use it to undo unwanted loops on stage or home, but I my favorite use of Undo is to deconstruct my piece. I basically start hitting Undo, playing with the result a bit, and continue to do so until only the initial loop is left. I really enjoy that as a composition devise. It's like you loop and climax, then then bring everything back to the initial state. I guess you could call it the staircase approach. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "daniel stevenson" <stillllscary@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 1:52 AM Subject: Re: organized or improvised (was: Favorite Five Threads on L.D.) > I bet most of us only make these mistakes alone at > home.I dont have an undo function and I think it keeps > me on my toes while performing,maybe i just get very > lucky.I like to walk on the thin ice,knowing there are > lobster traps in the depths below.It helps me to be > sort of "out there"and its very rewarding when you > take a listener there.You know that look of amazement > they get that is kinda like a glow/gleam in the eye? > Have a fantastic journey, > Danny deaf dumb and blind. > > --- Ben <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr> wrote: > >> Somehow related: >> How many of you are really "musically educated"? >> I mean can you read a staff?, can you play in all >> keys?, can you modulate >> without thinking about it?.... >> I have no musical training, having always learn by >> ear and trial/error, I >> feel it difficult to do live looping without an undo >> function or without >> rehearsing before committing the loop. >> I'm still mainly looping at home, making too much >> mistakes now to think >> about some public performance. >> I also changed my instruments (trying now to play >> the guitar which of course >> doesn't help :-)). >> I like guitar because it easier to transpose and the >> overdubs doesn't >> saturate too easily (2 layers of synth sounds >> already muddy) >> OK I have fun at home doing a basic I-V-IV in barre >> chords with some "solo" >> overdubs but I guess an audience will find it >> quickly boring. >> >> Any recommendation/exercises to improve my looping >> technics? >> Something I tried recently is to download some tabs >> from the net, isolate 2 >> or 3 measures, play just the lower string, then add >> the other notes string >> by string. This is a good way to construct something >> someone might recognise >> and allow me to construct chords I wouldn't be able >> to play yet with my >> limited left hand mobility. >> >> greetings from Belgium, >> >> Ben >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> >> >> how do you correct a bad loop on stage,stop >> >> abruptly,bullshit your way while tweaking or >> shoe/rack >> >> gazing until u get it right? >> > >> > To play off a famous quote of Miles Davis, "Do not >> be afraid of errors. >> > There are no errors", I never play bad or >> incorrect loops. On occasion, I >> > might play something that doesn't ring well with >> me emotionally (neither >> > correct nor >> > incorrect), but I always manage to work with it >> somehow. It becomes part >> > of >> > me just like all my other personality, physical, >> and psychological flaws >> > as a >> > human being. Even if I loop something rhythmic and >> my foot fails me (maybe >> > because I have had one too many cups of coffee or >> drank too much alcohol), >> > generating a loop that is an 8th note longer >> rather than what my brain >> > wanted to do >> > initially, that instantly becomes the norm and >> basis of what I do >> > afterwards. I don't really care if I intend on >> playing a 4/4 phrase but it >> > ends >> > up being 9/8 or 7/8, or even something like 13/8 >> or 11/8. In fact, I don't >> > even >> > count anymore. I never know what time signature I >> am in unless I >> > consciously >> > stop to figure it out. It's a waste of my time. >> Everything is feel to me >> > now. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Découvrez un nouveau moyen de poser toutes vos >> questions quelque soit le sujet ! >> Yahoo! Questions/Réponses pour partager vos >> connaissances, vos opinions et vos expériences. >> http://fr.answers.yahoo.com >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > >