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> I never use it to undo unwanted loops on stage or home, but I > my favorite use of Undo is to deconstruct my piece. I > basically start hitting Undo, playing with the result a bit, > and continue to do so until only the initial loop is left. I > really enjoy that as a composition devise. It's like you loop > and climax, then then bring everything back to the initial > state. I guess you could call it the staircase approach. ...which reaches its most efficient implementation with a looper which also offers a redo function, multiple loops and multiple tracks (in other words: Mobius, don't know about the Looperlative). And this offers some very creative arrangement options when used to un/redo not only overdubs but also (more or less) radical editing steps. Think e.g. looping some chord progression, the susunroundedmultiplying one short chord out of it, and then by un- and redoing splicing this short quickly repeating percussive chord into the progression... btw Jeff, why isn't there a SusUndo and SusRedo? Rainer