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OK, playing with it, it won't cause a fire at all, but will make some serious demented loops. Using just a guitar, I can see how you can build rhythms- then cut out a section, and shift the background you solo over. It would probably make more conventional sense using some kind of drum machine sync'd to the EDP, since the shifting windows could be vastly different, even if in the same key. The problem I am having (and it might be a matter of practice), is that it is sometimes hard to predict which 8th will be substituted. Sometimes it doesn't matter, but while playing, it is fun to completely change the loop from one thing to another by punching holes in it. Sometimes, I accidently substiture over something I wanted to keep because I can't remember which 8th it is on. Maybe it is just practice? Great track btw, sounds close to the stuff I do too! Dave Eichenberger- http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives > > If you know the "Frippertronics" (tape passed from one real > to real to another)setup then there's an easy way to > understand windowing. > It's simply the ability to suddenly shift back the tape by > the length of the loop. > The EDP uses the whole of it's memory to store as much of the > "old loop" as possible. > > Really it's just allowing you to use the Undo function even > though you changed the loop length, so you'd be "Undoing" > into parts of the loop history which were recorded/od'ed at a > different loop length. > > So...one way I use it is to work with a single cycle loop, > replacing single notes until there's quite a bit of material > in memory. Then I can multiply to (say) 8cycles and hit undo. > That means I start to hear 8 successive alterations of the 1 > cycle loop. > > http://www.andybutler.com/mp3/backwater.mp3 > > shows this maneuver, the windowing starts 2mins into the > piece, which uses 8th Replace to create the rhythm which is windowed. > > andy butler > www.andybutler.com > http://www.myspace.com/livelooper >