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I'd agree that it is part of the art, just as a looping device is part of our art. /K ----- Original Message ----- From: "a k butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 1:58 AM Subject: Re: "Instrument" vs "Effect" > >>I like to draw analogies with art, so let me give one a try. Let's say >we >>call a paintbrush and paint the collective instruments of the painter, >>meaning that they are the physical objects that touch the canvas and >>produce what we see as visual stimuli. It seems a bit awkward to say >this, >>but bear with me. Then let's say that when the painter finishes his >piece, >>he puts it on display and places a rose colored sheet of Plexiglas in >>front of the painting, so that the original visual sense data are then >>altered to appear different colors. > > So the plexiglas is part of the artist's expression. > I can't see that it wouldn't just become an integral part of "the art". > Just that it now gets called "mixed media". > > andybutler > >