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> I hate to say it, but we are all just deducing conclutions on what > is and is not an instrument based on our own custom definitions of > the term "instrument"...which I find extremely pleasing. Not my intention to do that at all, I'm trying illustrate a certain approach to music making. If "instrument" gets re-defined then that's just a useless by-product :-) > It confirms my observation and experiences of years of debating > that most disagreements and differences of opinion are semantic and > not related to any substantial facts. ...but I suspect what we have here is people with a genuinely different approach to music. >Next topic! :-) Hopes... new possibilities for musical structure opened up by the use of looping devices. Fears....string gauges andy