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On 7 Sep 2006 at 19:21, a k butler wrote: > Krispen asks > >>So, how does one define "instrument" in this forum? A good question! One might not class a looping device as an instrument, since it doesn't generate sound without an input, but neither does a trumpet. Neither is it necessary to "play" an instrument as the source of looped material - I've done pieces in the past where the sole source of input was touching the end of a jack lead plugged into the looper. You can create a wide range of sounds. In addition, a lot of what I do is post-processing the loop, so having generated the loop, the looper is then the instrument that is playing while I mangle the sound further. I used to describe myself as a "looper", but what I do is so far removed from the latest generation of youtube "guitar wanking over a riff" that I shall cease to do so. "Ambient improviser" has a nice ring to it, at least until they market an "ambient" pedal - New from Digitech! Press the pedal, sound like Eno! only $26 All the best, Nick Robinson