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On 15 sep 2006, at 18.31, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Adding all the other features and ways of manipulating the loops > just clutters my mind and distract me from the creative processs. I have a similar approach to music: I always start the experimentation in my mind and take care to learn new things slowly piece by piece, only building on what I already know as my own vocabulary. I never play a note (or a Mobius script) that I can't already "hear as sung by me" (meaning it must have a true expressional value in my imagination, or I will pass and stay silent or go into a different direction). I think this is especially important for young musicians that learn both about making music and mastering an instrument at the same time. Without suitable guidance it's so easy to fall into the trap where you loose track of what is your own voice and what is simply pyrotechnics without a unique content. I really hope that people on this list do not misunderstand my musical approach because I sometimes have posted detailed descriptions of what I do, by technical means. Please note that these descriptions have only been posted on specific request. What really matters IMO is the music you make and I think its' much more satisfying to play music or listen to others playing other music, compared to describing music in words - as we tend to describe the technical tools we all use for bringing over that wonderful content of Unique Musical Expression ;-) Another related thought: Often people ask on this list "how to set up a looping rig". I think the best way to set up a looping rig is to not think about technological tools at all. Just think about your music, yourself and your destination in life. Then figure out how to express these emotions and attitudes as sound statements and you will find yourself with a good blueprint copy of the rig you need to assemble. Going the other way, like buying some unit and say "oh, this box has 64 outputs - I'm gonna need some huge mixer to do my thing" (ironically put) is just something I can't understand. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom