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On Sep 17, 2006, at 5:52 PM, hazard factor wrote: > I don't really understand the phrase 'creative music' though, since > there is > a lot of creativity in developing the perfect pop or jazz song too, > just not > in the same way. I interviewed Bay Area musician Dan Plonsey a while back for a newsletter I did...I like what he says. "creative" is an attribute, not just an adjective.... "I've used the creative music label mostly since I first heard it in the 70s. Braxton used it, the Creative Music Center (where I studied with Roscoe Mitchell, Leo Smith, Karl Berger et al) used it, Cadence Magazine uses it -- it's a term which is recognized by many people. I don't like improvised music or free jazz or even avant-garde (which I used to use), because those are all limiting: I'm very much a composer, I don't know if I play jazz, and I think of myself being more on the edges than always in the advance. Besides, I do like the implication that there is un-creative music, because there is! I would like to ally myself personally and in genre with musicians for whom creativity and imagination are the most important forces. For Sun Ra creativity was a special necessity, to the point that his Creator and his God appear to be different entities: the Creator creates, while God is more of an abstraction. So I see the "creative" in creative music as an attribute of the music itself: the music itself creates things, it doesn't just sit there. It's not just an idea." best regards, Jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.JeffKaiser.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com