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Dont' forget that the harmonic structure of songs/progressions can mimic the harmonic structure of a tone... though I'm not sure if that makes anything more "Fractal." What I'm looking for (in software hopefully) is something that slowly changes a perameter over very long lengths automatically. Like modulating a filter (delay or any other effect) with a sine wave, but have the sine wave have a period of 10-20 minutes. Anyone know of something that'll do that? A VST? Reaktor .ens? I think that would be a really cool way to produce an interesting effect like the ah ah ah ah loop in Laurie Anderson's Oh Superman. --- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" > <rs@moinlabs.de> > > >> Okay, I understand the sequence of actions here, > but I still > >> don't see how this makes the music fractal.. How > is the whole > >> piece depicted in a similar way within itself? > Where is this > > > > The missing root notes of the chord progression > (which have a period of > > four > > bars) are also found in the bass line (which has a > period of one bar). So > > if > > you cut out one bar (any bar) of your chord > progression, the root notes of > > the entire chord progression are still there. > > So the similar pattern is based on the absense of > notes? Yeah, I get it > but it seems like a stretch to call this fractal > music. And do you call the > repating pattern recursive? It seems to repeat at > only one level. > > This may produce some interesting resutls, but > another example would be if > you created a 1 minute looping piece, composed of as > many parts you like, > copied it, doubled it's speed, copy it again, and > then past it in a new > track so you have the original loop repeating within > itself twice, but at > double speed. You could do this indefinitely, > copying those two double speed > parts, double speeding them, and then copying the > four new loops in a third > track, and so on....good grief, I'd love to hear > this. Can you do it Rainer? > I dare you...fill up all 8 Mobius tracks. Your last > track would consist of > 128 copies of your first track loop, each running at > 8 times the speed. To > illustrate the effect, you could create the whole > 8-track piece, and then > play it back, staring only one track up at a > time...so we can hear the > additions. I may try it myself, if I can muster the > time today to program > Mobius to copy loops. > > >> "similar" fashion inside itself. Remember, the > extreme or > >> ideal example her is that of a holographic plate, > where you > >> can break it in half and see the original images > preserved, > > > > No, you can't. You lose half of the angles of > aspect. > > What I meant to say, repeated at > http://www.smithsrisca.demon.co.uk/holonomic-theory.html > is that "the entire > image can be recreated from any one portion of the > plate. That is to say, if > a hologram is broken in half each half can still be > used, on its own, to > reproduce the whole image. And if each half is > broken into quarters, all > four quarters can still be used, on their own, to > reproduce the whole image. > And so on with practically no theoretical limit. All > that happens is that > every fragmentation simply reduces the clarity of > the image. A hologram, in > other words, obeys its own version of the Law of > Mass Action." > > > > Rainer > > > > Kris > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com