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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, mark sottilaro wrote: > Dont' forget that the harmonic structure of > songs/progressions can mimic the harmonic structure of > a tone... though I'm not sure if that makes anything > more "Fractal." > > What I'm looking for (in software hopefully) is > something that slowly changes a perameter over very > long lengths automatically. Like modulating a filter > (delay or any other effect) with a sine wave, but have > the sine wave have a period of 10-20 minutes. > > Anyone know of something that'll do that? A VST? > Reaktor .ens? I think that would be a really cool way > to produce an interesting effect like the ah ah ah ah > loop in Laurie Anderson's Oh Superman. Not entirely responsive to your specs, but I managed a 3minute modulation with Moog moogerfooger effects a while back. Here: "If you have a CP-251 control processor. Turn the LFO rate all the way down, patch the square wave into the Rate input, and the waveform at the triangle wave output will be a falling sawtooth wave of 1/60 Hz (actually the one I measured came in at 55 seconds/cycle - pretty dang close). If you want a rising sawtooth, run it through the mixer and use the inverting output." CP-251 *set LFO Rate to minimum *connect TRS cable from square out of LFO into the red Rate jack, then a 2nd TRS cable from the triangular out to the phaser. gives me dead on three minutes on my gear - 180 seconds from the vertical peak of the rising sawtooth to the next vertical peak. best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/