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I'll give you my (initial) observations. I can't say I've spent adequate time with all these, but I've used EnergyXT and Max a bit, and I've spent a little time with Bidule, Usine and Audiomulch. EnergyXT is the most straightforward and easy to use. It doesn't offer any low level modules for mathematical operations. You can't introduce random midi values (without some sort of VST) for example. It's a great environment for hooking up VSTs modularly, and it's got a good built in sequencer. It's audio engine is not as well coded as the others (though this isn't an issue if you don't use the stand alone version, and run it as a VST). It doesn't offer right and left audio cables like Bidule, and lately I've had some small timing issues using it as a master to sync Stylus RMX. Bidule offers better audio performance, more flexible routing, low level math processing (including randomness), more flexible sync options, but no sequencer. Audiomulch is great for processing audio, but there are no midi "cables" limiting midi processing capabilities. Usine is similar to Bidule, but with a more appealing user interface IMHO. The guy who wrote it plays acoustic bass, and there is just something about it that seems particularly well suited for one guy improvising with a conventional instrument being processed by the computer. There are a lot of tools for generating midi events (or other events) based on incoming audio. It's currently problematic with Mobius. On 11/1/06, fabio anile <fabio.anile@tiscali.it> wrote: > There is a lot of talk about Audiomulch, Energy and Bidule) and now that > i'm moving to software looping with Mobius...i'm a little bit confused > about the differences between them as VST hosts. > For what i've read on this list, Max appears complicated and requiring an > amount of time i miss by now. > > So i'm asking if these software have the same features ? > Do they all permits to send midi control for mobius and to control Vst >fx > (or/and VST synths) before and after mobius with a midi foot controller ? > Thanks > > fabio > http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon