Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion

[Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com>]

not a one of us has been able to sync the RC-50 to an external source  
right. Roland are aware of this. Please call them over and over till  
we get it worked out.

I don't have a "both" setting in my RC-50... I have internal, remote,  
auto and patch

remote I assume means external

hmmmm, what's that about? where are you getting "both"?

Teddy

On Feb 13, 2007, at 12:31 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:

> Regarding the use of the RC50 as a slave device I am not conviced  
> that it really syncs as a slave.
>
> It appears that when the RC50 recieves a MIDI-START message, it  
> attempts to extract the tempo from the incoming MIDI-CLOCK treating  
> it like a "tap" tempo then otherwise continue in "free run" mode.
>
> I would find the RC50 more useful it they dropped the requirement  
> for a MIDI-CLOCK signal and provided settings for "Internal" or  
> "External" sync.  (Instead they have "internal" and "both").  I  
> don't see a need for "both".  With External sync, the RC50 would  
> simply sync in real time with the incoming clock.    Then one would  
> start/stop the loops with foot pedals or CC events (same as when  
> using internal sync).
>
> My hunch (not knowing the software internals) is that the RC50 is  
> designed to run with its internal clock in free-run mode and  
> doesn't continuously sync with the incoming clock source.  The  
> reason I say this is because when I do an accelerando or retard on  
> the master tempo the RC50 doesn't track it.  It requires a MIDI  
> start message for the RC50 to sample the incoming tempo and set its  
> internal clock to the tempo that it detects.  As noted, the problem  
> with this arrangement is that the tempo detection is innaccurate  
> and it doesn't track in sync with the master.
>
> Now, in all fairness, I have only tried syncing to me computer  
> (Firepod) interface and haven't tried it with other sources.   
> However, from the posts I am reading I am getting the impression  
> that the issue is with the RC50 rather than the Firepod.   
> Incidentally, I can easily sync my K2600's internal clock to the  
> Firepod.
>
> So, my question is: Has ANYONE successfully synced the RC50 to an  
> external clock?  If there is a definate "yes" then I'll go back to  
> the drawing board, though I am running out of options here.
>
> In the meantime, I am using some VST delays that are part of Cubase  
> SX3 to accomplish my looping -- I am about 5 1/2 minutes into a new  
> composition and the first in which I will incorporate live loops.   
> The info on this mailing list and on the links from this list have  
> been very valuable to me and I appreciate the contributions of one  
> and all.
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
> Quoting Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com>:
>
>> call them once a week to complain about this stuff. If they don't   
>> hear
>> from us it will never get fixed.
>>
>> squeaky wheels unite
>>
>> Teddy