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> http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3 On 8 mar 2007, at 18.36, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > I noticed that, I also was caught up in the beat. If > I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard a bit of LaFosse > influence in there, must be the EDP functions and your > use of them. Again, incredible stuff, sounds like > I'd better save my pennies and get an EDP, because > after hearing that, sounds like nothing else will do. > How did you run the wah pedal? It sounds like a > filter instead of a regular wah sound, like you ran it > through an effects loop rather than pre input, well > being that you were probably miked, that's about the > only way to do it. My current pedalboard has two wahs > on it one is post preamp for that filtery sound. When > I finally can immerse myself into looping, I thought > about the possibility to use loopers throughout my > chain, for instance, one up front, so that my effects > can process the loop, and then one in back to capture > it for layering of tracks. How do you run your chain > for your set up? You're asking how I'm running my chain for "my set up", but fact is that the "Patterns" piece was not produced with the live concert set up I'm using today (I use a couple, actually), so I need to deal with the questions on at a time. This "Patterns" was a live looping EDP improvisation that were recorded in a studio. That environment gives you more control than performing live on stage. The studio routing was as this: - Sax mic were split into two parallel lines. - One sax signal going into one track on a multitrack recorder (Logic Pro on a computer with many audio inputs). - Another sax signal going into the EDP. - The EDP loop output going into another track on the multitrack recorder. - The tempo set in Logic and the EDP syncing by MIDI clock. - A Behringer FCB1010 MIDI pedal board was used for controlling the EDP. - A software wha pedal simulation was opened on the Logic track where the direct sax was recorded (so the wha would not affect the audio looped on the EDP). I used the FCB1010's expression pedal to work that wha filter (yes, you are correct that I set it more as a filter than as the usual Cry Baby or Vox wha simulation patches. Ok, those were the routings. So when playing I recorded two mono tracks: direct sax signal and EDP loops. Two other tracks were already recorded: Speach and percussion. I was listening to these as guidance for my improvisation. Functions used in the EDP were Overdub, SUSSubstitute (I guess that is the character you have heard in André LaFosse music), Speed and direct addressing of the three loops. Finally, the recorded track of the EDP loops were split up in Logic to enter many different dynamic filterbanks. As I remember a bunch of Ohmforce Quadfrohmage. The pad like sound (where the sax is going for a long note and the percussion stops) was created in the mix by sending the sax signal (not the EDP looping) through some Cycling74 Pluggo effects (Rye and SpeedShifter, I think). So the effect processing were not done all the way at the moment of playing the looper and instrument. ----------------- > How do you run your chain > for your set up? If that addresses a live concert set up (guessing so because you mentioned your two wha pedal live setup) I'm doing it much more simple these days. Instrument going into an effect processor going into a laptop going into an analog stereo compressor going into the PA system. The laptop is loaded with Mobius (which in essence is a bunch of virtual stereo EDPs with a lot added functionality) and a little bit of reverb added to the looper output. Mobius is picking up the tempo I play in (by the length of the first loop I make) and also sending out MIDI Clock to my effect processor (so I can sync or desync delays and rhythmical filtering etc). I like this set up because it works well with flute, sax, guitar and EWI played with the built-in sounds. The http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 though was not done on that set up but on the laptop only, running Guitar Rig 2 into Mobius. I don't like the sound of Guitar Rig 2 so I don't think I will use it more. A third se up is playing MIDI with an EWI into Logic on one laptop and looping it in Mobius on a second laptop. I think I will use that a lot in the future. Then there are all kind occasional systems mocked up by EDP and MIDI synchronizable analog filterbank, but I only use them in the studio (when I need some special sound) because they are too heavy to transport to gigs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release)