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As I've sold off most of my dedicated hardware in favor of Mobius software looping, I must say that I kept my DD-20 Gigadelay. I really like it AND it's stereo (Important if you're using stereo effects or synths and want to keep that sound) --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is > out of my price range, > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, > but I am glad to know > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did > not realize that. Right > now that may look like the best option, although I > am a bit wary of the > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is > already quite noisey. Another > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or > their 16 second delay (and > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the > electrix repeater also > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to > know that I what I want > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it > down. Now I can return > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able > feedback but does not > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I > can't tell which ones > accept more than one type of input (e.g., > instrument, mic, and line levels). > I would want at least the ability to use an > instrument and a mic, although I > wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both > simultaneously, so long as I > got quick at switching. > > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this > issue before I spend the > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal > that takes both > instrument level and line level and which you can > set the feedback for the > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I > currently do not have any rack > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is > there anything else I should > be considering in a addition? > > The ones mentioned so far are: > > Gibson Echoplex > Boomerang plus > Electro-Harmonix 2820 > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay > Original Lexicon Jamman > Electrix Repeater > > ????????????????????????????? > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eben > > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com > <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote: > > > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what > you want and tons more! > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have > the decay but you pick it > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I > beleive) > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > Plish > > > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > www.michaelplishka.com > > > > > The only things that I know of that will do what > you > > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga > delay > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read > somewhere > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) > uses > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so > that > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds > more like > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. > Other > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital > delay > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be > able to > > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the > loops > > > decay over time. > > > --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but > am > > >> having trouble > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs > (and > > >> budget). I've > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still > can't > > >> quite figure out > > >> everything and would really benefit from a > human > > >> (albeit > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in > advance > > >> for taking the time > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will > be > > >> able to "give back" > > >> some day when I know something worth while. > Until > > >> then, I guess I > > >> should donate to this site if I get any > responses. > > >> > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks > like > > >> what will be the > > >> most important distinction for me is that the > loops > > >> will be able to > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, > lay > > >> down another one > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and > eventually > > >> the first one dies > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine > this > > >> working like a > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or > is > > >> that called > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into > new > > >> things, without > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and > without > > >> having to open a new > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new > track > > >> each time you > > >> wanted to change it up. > > >> > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > > >> > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 > giga > > >> delay > > >> > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking > that > > >> it doesn't allow > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if > you can > > >> do this with the > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do > this > > >> with the DD-20, > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > > >> loop/delay time up with > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a > > >> certain number of > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to > that > > >> length) or if > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not > aware > > >> of if you're > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built > to be > > >> a delay. > > >> > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I > don't > > >> really need a delay > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I > don't > > >> really need to be > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able > to > > >> set them up on the > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my > > >> computer. I don't need > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or > instrument > > >> in addition to the > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus > for > > >> me. I don't need a > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds > is > > >> plenty. I don't know > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html