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> As a musician who feels he is right up with what's going on > in the digital musical world and who also uses Repeaters, > EDPS and Looperlatives eschewing the laptop paradigm for some > very salient and well thought out > reasons, I take small > umbrage for your characterization of me as 'the old crowd'. The use of the term "old crowd" was in this context not meant to transmit any negative connotations. My thought in using this wording was actually that a mere two years ago, the laptop users a) could be roughly counted by the fingers of one hand and b) were very much into the really electronic corner. This seems to have changed a lot, and this (in our case) mainly because today laptop setups provide very powerful and flexible looping setups (about which Krispen did already point valid corrections to my message). Even I, who has started to use computers for music making very long ago, still like my different hardware setups (for various reasons) and if the fact that Electrix charges a lot of money for a software which is in big parts a part of the contract they made long ago with me and other users and for which we've paid already didn't piss me off that much, I would even have orderer the Repeater software. Yet you got me curious: what are, in a few short words, the very salient and well thought out reasons in your case? All the best, and no intent to show any disrespect, Rainer > Is John Mclaughlin considered old school if he does not play > a Line 6 digital modelled guitar? a bad example - McLaughlin did use guitar to MIDI even back then when the majority of guitarists hadn't even heard the word "MIDI" and a lot of Line6 users of today weren't even born ;)