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re: Subject: Laptop-based looping

Andrew,

Sonar is useful for creating loops in post-production, but not really 
for real-time improvisation.  It's a powerful recording and midi 
sequencing environment, though.

Sonar's architecture will not properly support hosting Mobius as a VST 
plug-in.  Bottom line is that you can't record the Mobius output.   
REAPER serves as the VST host in my environment, as well as recording 
all the audio tracks (audio and midi inputs as well as looped output).

Ableton will allow you to host Mobius for probably the most advanced 
looping applications - with a price tag of about $500 US.  My friends 
describe Ableton Live! as being a tool that fully supports their 
creative process both as a composing and recording environment.

Even without a foot controller, if you have a Windows PC with a modest 
amount of RAM and midi and audio interfaces, you can download REAPER and 
Mobius and start looping and recording your loopage today for free.  
REAPER is shareware, so you send the developer a license fee if you 
decide to use it after 30 days.  Jeff Larsen (the  developer of Mobius) 
is a contributor to this group as you may already know, and both 
products have active user communities.

I just re-programmed FCB1010 midi footpedal configuration in about 5 
minutes using the Mobius 'midi-learn' feature - fantastic!

Dan Ash
White Plains, NY

> Subject:
> Laptop-based looping
> From:
> "Andrew Koenig" <ark@acm.org>
> Date:
> Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:35:16 -0400
>

> Is my understanding correct Is Sonar useful for looping at all?  Any 
>other
> words of wisdom?