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At 3:58 PM +0200 8/14/07, Per Boysen wrote: >On 14 aug 2007, at 15.24, Mech wrote: > >>Per, if you're going to tackle making a second fretless, here's >>another thought: go for a 12-string. > >That's an interesting idea! I've had an electric 12-string once, >that I tuned in fifths (inspired by Lyle Mays sound when he had >zithers all over the grand's top). I'v also been thinking that it >would be nice to have a four string fretless, hopefully with a quite >narrow finger board. You may as well get rid of the thinner, high >pitched, strings for fretless, because they don't sound very >interesting anyway. I'd rather play a thicker string at a low fret >and create high notes by feedback overtones, since the lower neck >playing position gives you better pitch control. You could also try keeping 6 or 12 strings, but using a lower tuning and thicker strings. I've got mine tuned to an Arabian Oud tuning -- DGADGC -- so it is overall about two whole tones lover than a conventional guitar. That may also be a reason why it works so nicely. But you do need to make certain that you've got the action nice and low to compensate for the larger gauge strings. (In fact, I should be getting mine back from the shop later this week. It's having the action lowered/neck shimmed and the original pickups replaced; unfortunately, my luthier set it up for his action preference, rather than mine. C'est la vie.) Are you coming to L2k7 this year? I think I'll be bringing the FrankenVox and VG setup along with me to SC, and if you're coming over you're more than welcome to check it out. >I have yet not started using a filter pedal (wha?) in the >Sustaniac-C loop, but with such a setup you can pretty much sweep >the sustained feedback note through different overtones. Let us know how well that works (are you planning on using a full filter or a wah, BTW?). I always wanted to try putting an EQ or somesuch in the effect loop to manipulate the feedback, but I never had the right pedal at the right moment to try it out. And then, of course, I got distracted by something else. :P Maybe Ted has experimented with that on his Sustainiac...? --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later"