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yeah i saw that and thought i wouldn't say that either the se-70 was an upgraded/improved se-50 but the VF-1 while it shares some design factors is a very different machine On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > I wouldn't describe it that way, the SE-70 and VF-1 are quite > different in > their sounds. > -Qua > > -----Original Message----- > From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:15 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: processors? > > Yes, I believe so. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Wellington" <dougwellington@gmail.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: processors? > > >>> The VF1 is a half rack space multi effects box. >> >> Is it a newer version of the SE-70 then? >> >> Doug >> >