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It was a really well done piece for it's day for sure. I just acquired another K5m for my van actually. Many of my old songs run sounds off that...and they're so different nothing else quite captures the aura... A huge amount of the work in that project was writing look up tables that would adequately convert real times to the rather arbitrary 'rates'. I built a sampling card for my PC with a 10 bit adc back then on an isa proto card :-). Cheapskate I am, and used that to sample data from which to model whatever they'd done. The engineers were nowhere to be found. :So sad nobody knows who worked on machines like that. It'd be cool to have that info for all the synths on my sounddoctorin.com page. Anyway, those 'rate' values were not a smooth function...and...they were interactive so I had to write multi-dimensional lookup tables actually. But we got it so one can enter actual time values when they edit the envelopes anyway :-) Seemed important at the time. Wrote some cool sounds with it. Sold very few copies. Ads didn't pay for themselves so I bagged it. -bob Paul Richards wrote: > (I have written a few C programs in my day of doing that. One that was > an editor for the Kawai K5.) > > Ahhh...one of my all time favorites: K5. I still have one (K5M). > > Paul > > */Bob Weigel <sounddoctorin@imt.net>/* wrote: > > Well maybe if they are so secure in their knowledge and dominance > of the > topic they won't have to turn into you-know-what's and start mud > slinging and have some understanding of a less experienced person in > their niche'. > > Though I think I can safely say that in reality...it's more like ME > being the office of one specialty area in MIT walking across the > hall to > another guy's specialty area and saying "Hey Jack, I was reading > about > some of your problems over here and I relate several aspects of my > expertise to these..." > > I have written a few C programs in my day of doing that. One that was > an editor for the Kawai K5. > > 100,000 lines? In C code?? *blink*. Uhh..yeah never done one that > long. Being a language with a lot of built ins and all... usually not > necessary to go quite that far with it :-). I seem to recall that one > being 80K of text or something like that. > > When I do pic chips I write in assembler so far. But anyway if I > do it > I'll have a vision of about what it will entail and do it. If someone > tells me they are going to improve something I've done I tell them > "go > for it". I don't act like an asshole. -Bob > > Jeff Larson wrote: > > >>"Ultimate looper". My term for something that has all the features > >>someone would want in a dedicated hardware box currently. Somebody > >>seems to have a permanent attitude against me for dreaming of > such a > >>thing and considering making one. Does this person have some > >> > >> > >FINANCIAL > > > > > >>INTEREST for seeing that such a product NOT be done? Who is this > "CV" > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>and why are they bearing some kind of grudge agaisnt me? I totally > >>don't get it. > >> > >> > > > >I won't speak for this mysterious "CV" but please try to understand > >that there are people on this list with many years of experience > >actually building looping hardware and software, some of them over a > >decade. > > > >When someone comes along saying they're going to build the "ultimate > >looper" with "all the features" this is sort of like walking into >the > >M.I.T physics department and claiming you're going to solve the cold > >fusion problem. > > > >You seem like a nice guy with a low tolerance for sarcasm, so I'm > >trying my best to put this gently. If you can't describe the > >architecture and functions of the EDP, Repeater, and > Looperlative, to a > >reasonably thorough degree you really aren't in a position to > toss out > >phrases like "ultimate" and "all the features" because you don't >know > >what those mean. > > > >If you have never written a computer program in C or C++ of over > 100,000 > > > >lines then some people are going to have difficulty taking you > seriously > >because building a looper is more about the software than the > hardware. > > > >I don't think anyone is trying to crush your dream, but we may be > >surprised and a little incredulous that someone else is crazy > enough to > >dream it. > > > >Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads > ><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48249/*http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz> > > at Yahoo! Search.