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Thanks Zoe! Good info. I hope all these features are implemented in the software version as it's too late for me and hardware I think. Mark On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Zoe Keating wrote: > hi folks, > > i've been floating here around the edges, too busy to reply but i > gotta chime in... > > LP-1 vs RPTR > > i really dislike these "what is better" discussions because to me > it like asking...what is better? a dog or a cat? ice cream or > chocolate cake? smoked herring or pickles? > i've found that what is better depends on what you are doing, like > so many things in life....microphones for example! > now, of course both devices are expensive and it is hard to explain > to the spouse that you're buying a $1000+ item just to try it. but, > that is kinda what i do. don't get me started on how many thousands > i've spent on amplification systems for the cello (and you can't > return custom installed pickups). > > here is my opinion though about the debate, if there is one... > > sound quality-wise the LP-1 wins hands down over the RPTR. > > i am a dedicated RPTR user and i know i got rid of my LP-1, but i > actually think that feature-wise, LP-1 is a superior box. you can > do more kinds of looping with it. its like a swiss army knife of > looping. > > as for why i got rid of it - right now i am focusing on a very > precise, specific kind of looping that is entirely midi sequenced > and the songs already composed. to do this i need a combination of > computer and hardware looper. both the RPTR and the LP-1 have > drawbacks for what i'm doing. i chose the RPTR in the end for 4 > reasons. 1) i've invested 5 years in mastering it and feel > confident with it onstage. i'm even intimately familiar with how it > fails so when it does, little can throw me. 2) the interface of the > RPTR is nice and big and fisher-price-like. that makes it much > easier for me to see out of the corner of my eye (because of my > cello, i can't have gear in front or below me. i have it off to one > side) and 3) the midi implementation was more developed in the > RPTR. i couldn't use my LP-1 for a long time because it didn't have > the midi capabilities i needed. i think it does now, but i'm not > about to switch anymore. and 4) i want the $1000 to spend on > another experimental cello pickup system! > > now, about the RPTR upgrade.... > > there are some great improvements in there. from what i heard, i am > the sole person in the universe having trouble with it, because i > might be the sole person in the universe controlling two RPTRs with > sequences of midi commands from Ableton Live (anyone else out > there??). i find that hard to believe, but whatever. > > that said, there are some big improvements that i am really happy > with...and if you are not controlling your RPTRs with sequenced > midi commands, you will never notice the problems... > > - indication of muted track > if a track is muted, the volume indicator flashes red at the top. > yay!! sometimes midi triggering misses and i could not tell, > inbetween songs which tracks would still be muted as the next song > started. with the red indicator light, i can tell right away if a > mute did not get unmuted. > also there is a new midi command that sends an "unmute all" > message. so i just send that as a matter of course in the batch of > commands at the beginning of every song. > > - reset "button" > my midi sequencing can occasionally make the RPTR wig out. but both > my RPTRs have always wigged out every now and then (i'm not going > to describe this again. just search the archives if you really want > the details). in the past, the only remedy when it would get stuck > was to power down. now there is a snazzy midi command that you can > send, and it does a quick reset which clears the seizure. > > - sticky settings across power cycles!!! > love this. if you setup pan settings in a song, they will stay that > way until you change them. > > - erase single track midi command > previously you could only erase the whole loop via midi. now you > can erase each track individually via midi (yes, you could always > do it via the front panel. but that was effectively useless for me) > > - multiply by x > you can send a midi command to multiply your loop x3 or x4 or x5 or > whatever. in the past, you could only multiply x2, so i used to > screw up songs all the time by accidentally sending the command the > wrong number of times and screwing up the math. now i just send one > simple command. > > ok...back to work with me. > > loop, zoe >