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btw, there's one analysis you could do even without having the raw data: with the data you already have from my published info regarding looping experiences in the bins, could you do an analaysis how many people per year have been coming in during the last 25 years to give us this results. Obviously, this is an under-determined set of equations, but what is it? Obviously, only a few people in the first years, then two peaks in the middle and since a decline? Rainer