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> > Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. > > Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. Wow, that's news to me. Can you elaborate on what you're hearing (over in the zonemobius group if you prefer). What you describe: > 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start > a new loop This is basic re-Record I do it all the time. > 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop ("stutter"). This is Retrigger, also a common function. The only "artifact" you will have here is a slight trimming of the start of the loop to adjust for latency. Sometimes I hear this if the loop starts immediately with a sharp attack but not usually. This affects the sound of the attack but not the rhythm, the loop will begin playing from where it would be if there were zero latency. > 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non > rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a > duration that loops in synk. This is Unrounded Multiply, also common. Again the only artifact will be a slight trimming of the start of the loop for latency adjustment the first time it plays. The only serious artifacts I'm aware of in doing these operations have been bugs when you do them while generating output sync, which occasionally results in redundant retriggers making a "fluttering" sound. But if you have output sync turned off, which you would in the acoustic example, there isn't much happening that could cause artifacts other than the latency adjustment. Has this been happening long or is it something in the most recent release? Thanks, Jeff