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On 5 okt 2007, at 10.08, Buzap Buzap wrote: > To make a long story short: What looping features & skills do you > need to be able to play live with other musicians? > How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly (acoustic > instruments only and no drummer with a midi trigger)? In my experience the EDP is excellent for this. The trick is to not loop all the time and always be prepared delete your loop in a blink to react on what is happening in the group. 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start a new loop and the second time you hit Record (or any alternative ending) you're in a new loop that is syncing to the new "acoustic" tempo. 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop ("stutter"). 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a duration that loops in synk. This kind of "looper abuse" is not possible with Mobius on a laptop, although Mobius does well handle most EDP tricks and adds its own. This good live synk functionality is the reason I still keep my old EDP. I can't think of any bette way to sync electronics than an EDP used in the above described way. The longer loop you create the more accurate will the sync be. I typically start out with two or one bars. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)