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I have been experimenting with this. I used a cheap dance mat from a playstation as a midi controller that triggered samples. I tap my foot / heel on the floor anyway when i play so it wasn't a big deal creating a little "tap technique". Tap one of every 4 trigs the loop. After a while I didn't even notice it was there, hitting a pedal I found a little uncomfortable. I tried mapping the tap tempo button in Ableton to the mat but while i was able to control speed, it inevitably drifted. I may try It would be great if there existed an "midi clock intelligent tap tempo" in ableton or a looper. Perhaps there does? Anyone know? Is there a software one available? I wonder if this could do it http://www.circular-logic.com/products.html dance mat - >in-time midi software -> Ableton midi clock sync This would stop drift. Very simple idea, one taps 4 beats and the sequencer or looper counts so that tap 1, 5 , 9 etc signal the beginning of the bar in 4/4. obviously only useful for keeping in time with other musicians with small tempo fluctuations, bit changes would never really work unless they were pretty gradual. This feature should be in Ableton, shame it isn't there. On 5 Oct 2007, at 15:23, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi guys > > first of all, I'm glad to have started such a fruitful discussion :) > > So, some comments: > > To me, it is important not only to lead the gang with my looping > but also be able to follow (what if the other guys _are_ the drummer > +bass player?). > People already look at me in strange ways when I come up with my > looper. I think you can earn quite some respect when you are also > able to follow others decently. Plus, it's simply my desire for > musical freedom. > In the situation I had described, an accordeonist was leading this > ethnic rubato style song with _very_ free tempo. The song wouldn't > be the same (not "breathing") if we'd stick to my stuff. > > Anyway, some ideas/best practices I've developed in the mean time: > Since you have to keep track of the time of the others constantly > anyway, you can do this: > - Put everything that is like ambient sound on a loop (or seperate > delay pedal) > - Fire the ryhthmical stuff as one shot samples > i.e. you record a rhythmic pattern of 4 beats. So that means, you > have to press the pedal at the exact time in every bar to trigger > your one-shot-loop. (The drummer uses his pedals all the time, so > why shouldnt you?). The good thing is, even if the tempo varies a > bit, you are still on track. So you keep on stomping through the > whole song... (poor pedal) > > On the RC-50 I would work it like this (forgot to deactivate TEMPO > SYNC in my last mail btw): > - Make the following settings: > - SINGLE MODE > - no loop sync, turn off tempo sync for all three phrases, turn > down Rhythm knob to off > - Assuming your loop is 4 beats do this: > - Start looping (begin with a distinct sound on beat 1) > - Play your 4 beats > - Keep on recording i.e. alltogether 8/12 beats > - Run your phrase as continuous loop > - Retrigger (Stutter) by pressing PHRASE pedal every 4 beats > - That means you are rhythmically pressing the pedal on every beat 1 > - If you go into OVERDUB mode quickly, you can sneak in some more > stuff in the first 4 beats (or some ambient sounds in beats 1-12) > > If you want to add ambient layers, I'd recommend using a seperate > delay pedal. (There is also a workaround in MULTI MODE using > external pedals, one phrase as ambient loop and the others as one- > shot-loops - but complicated). > > I hope this hasn't been too confusing. I'm still experimenting. > But I've discovered new ways to use my looper today :-)) > > Best regards > Buzap > > > -- > GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. > Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail > >