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Steve, after reading your blog, I'm mostly inclined to agree, I'm not saying Boss or any other manufacturers of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say that they are looking at looping as a pure gimmick is missing the point, to someone who has been doing in professionally and using the EDP or anything of the like, sure, those pedals are a complete joke. I think maybe part of why those products were developed was to bring looping to the masses, but also in a form that beginners can get into it, I mean you don't go from crawling to running, I don't care who you are. Now, granted, I was using software loopers, like Ambiloop before I ever bought my RC2, but as easy and practical as I found the program to be, I wasn't able to use it in a live format, so I started small, and the RC2 was as small as I could get, now, if I tried it and didn't like using looping, I wasn't out a whole bunch of money, and hey, they DO make great practice tools, lucky for me, I outgrew it quickly and am wanting more flexibility and the ability to build compositions by using the looper as in instrument, rather than a tool. So I wouldn't go so far as to slag something like those products, but I can certainly see their limitations as far as pure looping is concerned, but it's like any piece of gear, it's not so much what you have or use, it's how creative you are with it, knowing your limitations and being able to work within or break out of those limitations. I've already decided when I step up to the next bit of gear(preferably the EDP), I actually was going to use the RC2 earlier in the chain so that I can effect it and then take whatever loop I made with it and drop it on the main looper and so on, so it will find it's use after I move on. My two cents, Brian PS I hate the guide tracks and the loop quantise myself. --- The woodshed <woodshed@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > hi, > > Read your site. just wondered, how would you achieve > multiple time > signatures without some form quantisation? > ie 7/8 over 5/16 over 3/4? > > leon > > On 5 Oct 2007, at 18:16, Steve Lawson wrote: > > > >>>I was just wondering how many people are really > out there with > > the same looper. > >> Does anybody know how many units Roland is > selling world-wide?<<< > > > > Far too many given how lame their ideas for a > looper are... > > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org/archives/2007/09/ > > > what_music_gear.html > > > > Steve > > www.stevelawson.net - site > > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC