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At 7:47 PM +0000 11/17/07, Ian Popperwell wrote: > >That's really helpful, I will check both oout. Yes, I've been really >disappointed with the PS-5 - it's good to hear that it's not just me! Yeah, it's not just you. Roland/Boss have this habit of putting out new products which are not necessarily an "improvement" over the previous model. Sometimes this results in a new product branch that is interesting all on its own. More often, it merely involves rehashing a bunch of stuff in a different way to churn the market and generate sales based merely on releasing a "new" model. In short, I've heard a lot of people complain about the PS-5, while praising the older models (PS-3, PS-2). FWIW, the PS-3 does contain a 'whammy' function, if that's what you're after, and can be used with one of the external Roland/Boss pedals for control (EV-5, FS-5u/l, etc.). Obviously, the way it degrades with the whammy is different than the way the original Digitech degrades. Try 'em both and see if either has a sound that appeals to you. Also, I may be mistaken, but I thought the Digitech Space Station also had some pitch transposition functions. Still, it sounded like you might be looking for a more high-quality unit, rather than one that degrades interestingly however. If that's the case, the floor-unit specification kind of limits you (since most of the really good units are racks. In addition to the TC Helicon, there's also a couple of the high-end TC Electronic floor units that might give good results (generally, TC Electronic are really good effect units overall; lots of people here rave about their higher end units). I've not used any TC Electronic units that do pitch shift, so I can't really speak authoritatively here, however. Don't know of anything Eventide for the floor (yet). Maybe if there's another successor to the Time/Mod Factor series, but who knows. The Alesis Ineko can give some rather interesting results (even though it's not strictly pedalboard, it will fit on one rather nicely). I use an Akira, which is the same thing with slightly better quality, but rackmount. It does a very good job and gives you a bunch of other effects as well. Or alternatively, if you're really into completely bizarre, there's the Death By Audio Robot. http://www.analoguehaven.com/deathbyaudio/robot/ ;) --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." ( x ) <--- you are here.