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The effect I'm thinking of on the Boss SE70 was more than a swell, it created a very rich sound. I don't have one to play with now, so I can recall what the multi effect included. But it was very nice for some things. -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:22 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 'slow gear' effect On 7 dec 2007, at 05.33, Qua Veda wrote: > It is a slow-attack, chorus-verb type effect that creates > kind of a volume swell and sustained sound. My TC FireworX had a couple of those patches. Seem many programmable boxes have them. I truly dislike those patches - although I love the sound they produce. My hang-up is that I prefer to play the swell and sustain manually on the physical instrument. That's just so more expressive and fun to play with. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://www.youtube.com/pellibox (gritty)