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Hi Qua, I took five off to read up on the SE-70 and I really got surprised by how useful it seems! Below is what Patchmanmusic's Matt writes about the SE-70. Matt is the in-house sound designer at Patchmanmusic and his sounds are used by the leading wind controller synthesists of the world. If he thinks the SE-70 is "amazing" there must be something to it ;-) >> Boss SE-70 Super Effects Processor >> >> The Boss SE-70 is an amazing device. Aside from great sounding >> reverbs, delays, etc..., it has several effects that are not >> commonly found on other effects processors. It has 2 vocoders, a >> guitar synth, bass synth, (these synths can track any mono >> acoustic instrument complete with a dynamic enveloped filter and >> amp envelope!), a tuner, a 60 cycle hum remover, a vocal remover, >> TRUE stereo reverbs (stereo in and out), great sounding >> distortions and pitch shifters, a 20(!) tap delay, 16 stage >> chorus, 40 stage phaser, a sampler, and on and on. It can chain a >> large amount of effects for massive processing. It can respond to >> MIDI controllers and up to 3 pedals. It's a pretty cool device. It >> is capable of doing all sorts of things to your sounds. The guitar >> and bass synths algorithms can be used with the acoustic trumpet >> or flugelhorn as pitch-tracking synthesizers! That's right, this >> thing will track your horn and synthesize it (internally only- it >> doesn't do pitch to MIDI conversion). It sounds great! >> Obviously there is no way in the world to "guess" how the thick texture of your "slow gear" sound is done within the SE-70. What you can do is to get hold of a unit for a while and analyze it. That's what I did with the Eventide Eclipse and the TC Electronic FireworX. For the sounds I liked I checked out (1) what effect modules were in use, (2) how these modules were routed, (3) how parameters in different modules were linked to parameters in other modules for interactivity and finally (4) how the performance parameters where set up for the musician. When you learn a bit of this you can set up the same effect patches in software. But, I'm not sure this is true for the SE-70 though, since it has some functions that may not yet be available as software "under the same roof". Please don't take my words for truth here, because I have not played with e SE-70 yet. Links: http://www.patchmanmusic.com/MattsEVIGigRig01.html http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Boss/ SE-70/10/1 Per On 7 dec 2007, at 12.30, Qua Veda wrote: > The effect I'm thinking of on the Boss SE70 was more than a swell, it > created a very rich sound. I don't have one to play with now, so I > can > recall what the multi effect included. But it was very nice for > some > things. > -Qua > > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:22 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: 'slow gear' effect > > On 7 dec 2007, at 05.33, Qua Veda wrote: > >> It is a slow-attack, chorus-verb type effect that creates >> kind of a volume swell and sustained sound. > > > My TC FireworX had a couple of those patches. Seem many programmable > boxes have them. I truly dislike those patches - although I love the > sound they produce. My hang-up is that I prefer to play the swell and > sustain manually on the physical instrument. That's just so more > expressive and fun to play with. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://www.youtube.com/pellibox (gritty) >